[Oe List ...] various charts

frank bremner fjbremner at hotmail.com
Thu Jun 29 01:21:11 EST 2006


My questions are short, Lee.

1)  What was the rationale for the Vision chart (LENS/epecially HDP) being 
as it was?  The key vision item to aim for being in the middle, with main 
supporting and lesser supporting items to the sides?  Anything else?

2)  What was the rationale for the Contradictions chart (as above) being as 
it was?  Having the most populous category on the left, decreasing to the 
least populous category on the right, and all else in between?  Anything 
else?

3)  For the Proposals chart the Cultural items tended to be in the middle, 
with Social/Political items to one side, and Economic items to the other 
side.  Emphasis: the cultural is key.  Anything else?

4)  The Programmatic Chart reworked the Proposals into Programs that suited 
the territory and kinds of funding agencies.  I'd imagine that this could 
change if there were a change of government with a new arrangement of 
government departments - teh same funding but from different places.  And so 
on.  Anything else?

5) Timeline.  Straightforward.  With a fairly time-constrained event with 
students I've had them place Proposal items horizontally on a timeline: the 
months of this year, then the first and second six-month periods of next 
year, then "after that".  I divided the timeline into three horizontal 
streams: economic (about "resources etc"), political (about "decisions and 
discussions etc"), and cultural (about "values, symbols and celebrations 
etc").  I'd develop the Social Process categories further only if necessary.

6) Tactics.  A detailed version of the Proposals or Programmatic chart?

I know it looks as if I've answered my own question ("We're not out to teach 
you anything you don't already know"), BUT I'm interested in any fresh takes 
on these categories from anyone who has been intimately involved with them 
on a week-by-week basis.

My underlying issue/question has to do with acquainting students/teachers 
with the idea of using a chart to hold items, rather than a list.  Then 
"What sort of chart?"  Why do you use a "bridge chart" for the Vision and 
not for the Proposals?  Are there other ways of doing it?

In other words:
(1) give them something to work with in the current event/workshop
(2) suggest that "doing a visual chart" is important: a principle within 
this event/workshop
(3) suggest that their may be other charts that could fit each stage
(4) suggest why the charts in (1) were used
(5) back to (3): the charts in (1) are not written in stone: if anyone has 
an alternative, let's look at it

A lot of this would tend to be done if I was able to work with the 
student/teacher group over a period of time as a mentor.

Any further ideas ?

Cheers

Frank Bremner


>From: Lee <leassoc at charter.net>
>Reply-To: Order Ecumenical Community  <oe at wedgeblade.net>
>To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at wedgeblade.net>
>Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] various charts
>Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 09:33:23 -0700
>
>Yeah, that's plenty.  I could send you the entire facilitators
>manual, but, that might not answer any of your questions.  So, why
>don't you ask me a couple of specific questions on each of the five
>steps and I'll do my best to answer them.  Why don't you send a
>separate email for each set of questions rather than a dozen or so
>all at once.
>
>Lee
>
etc

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