[Oe List ...] ICA US Objective data
Lawrence Philbrook
larry at icatw.com
Mon Jul 2 21:53:15 EDT 2007
Dear Don
I appreciate the data whether the number 4 million is accurate or not -
if you do not have money or an effective way to change the pattern that
is creating the debt any amount of debt can be terrifying. I do find it
ironic that the leadership (defined as those with the power the shut it
down) are the only people who have not lost their positions in this
transition. If your scenario is correct that the board had not been
able to limit the losses for 15 years and have continually made
decisions or supported decisions that kept the losses coming. So what
is their plan to deal with this fire, those who are working and ask
others to take their places who have less experience and no continuity.
This is an interesting methodology, it has been tried by many other
companies and most have failed.
On the other hand since the board has been decisionally impotent for 15
years according to your estimation, perhaps its forcing anyone who
actually wants to do anything missional to do it without the ICA
structure is the best strategy. It has certainly stimulated a lot of
creativity and participation in this conversation. The board has not
tried to enforce their ownership and control of the legacy, so perhaps
this is the most effective and therefore best real strategy to set the
ICA/OE/EI USA forces loose on the world.
With respect, Larry
Lawrence Philbrook wrote:
> Dear Don
>
> Thank you this is the first time i have seen a number. ICA USA is in
> debt by approximately $4 million dollars plus or minus the values of
> assets. $4 million in debt plus an inability by the board or staff to
> shift the patterns of the past 15 years instilled the panic which led
> the board to let everyone go.
>
> Now that the dust has cleared a bit and the board has figured out a
> way out of debt or manage it they are asking all the players both
> staff and movement to come back together in October to decide how to
> move forward.
>
> Is this a clear statement of the current situation?
>
> With respect, Larry
>
> dpelliott at aol.com wrote:
>> /_It has bothered me for all these months that the board acted upon
>> the advice
>> of a consultant to solve the financial crisis by firing the entire
>> program
>> staff but keep the bookkeeper, receptionist and janitors. Who did they
>> imagine would run the programs that generated the revenue to pay the
>> bills
>> plus the salaries and benefits for the bookkeeper, receptionist and
>> janitors.? I sure their consultant did not have a clue.
>>
>> _/I don't know who wrote this, but I can explain, quite simply, that
>> the "bookkeeper(s)" were kept on to finish the books for the year and
>> prepare for the audit. They are now gone. The receptionist and
>> Kemper building maintenance staff are recessary to keep the building
>> running, and are paid out of the rent money. The programs did not
>> generate enough revenue to cover the salaries of the program staff,
>> let alone, all the other things you mention. Once again, we have
>> been losing about $250k every year for the last fifteen years, and
>> are trying desperately to forge a viable future.
>>
>>
>> A start will be the "Living Legacy" event. Hope to see you there.
>>
>> Don Elliott
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