[Oe List ...] Notes on George Walter's spin

Fri Jul 13 14:17:20 EDT 2007

Thanks Janice for your notes.  I was only able to hear the first part of his
speech for some reason.  

It would be so nice if the conversations on this listserve could focus on
the future and it's unbelievable positive potential which from my experience
can not be seen, perceived, or conceived when looking backwards or when
criticizing others.

Jean Watts
504/913-7828 cell & business
504/865-7828 home & fax

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From: "Janice Ulangca" <aulangca at stny.rr.com>
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Colleagues - Yesterday I visited for the first time and registered on the
Repository.  It's at http://twiki.wedgeblade.net   It lets you do amazing
things - after some practice, which I need.  

On the Repository, I listened to George Walters' spin at the Springboard
Gathering in Denver in April.  It took awhile to download, tho I have
broadband (Road Runner) cable access - maybe 5? minutes.  I was so impressed
(and addressed) that I listened again and took notes.  What he said really
nails some things about the transition and re-envisioning the future that's
going on now - so I thought I'd pass along the notes. If I got something
wrong, George (or anyone else who was there), correction is welcome.  Visit
the Repository to see his board image and hear the whole talk.

Beginning Sunday there will be another Springboard Gathering at Abbey North,
the John Patterson home near Toronto.  I wish them Godspeed, and look
forward to hearing about their work.

Janice Ulangca

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Order Beginnings
Notes from a talk by George Walters
Denver, CO April, 2007

(George begins by saying that this is a talk for those with some history,
though others are welcome to listen.  Janice understood this as "I'm
not gonna try to de-jargonize this or try to make it plain for the whole
world - it's tricky enough to talk about all this without that
translation!")

Re Care, Courage, Creativity:
Care has to do with the Indicative (Janice says "which I understand as
'what's really there', as opposed to 'what I wish were there' ".)
Courage  is Nothing to lose, or Audaciousness (Janice adds "as an operating
style")
Creativity  has to do with the Imperative - it's the flip side of the
Indicative.  The Imperative requires corporateness and discipline if
creativity is to be molded into something effective - if forms are to make
it real.

Illumination is required, to deal with the contradiction.  What illumination
is about is exposing the Indicative so that the Imperative can arise.

We have the being-ness - we don't have to create it.  What we don't know is
the shape it needs to take. I thought about calling it New Order, New Guild
- but decided to call it the New Thingamajig - because we don't know what it
will be.

MARKS OF THE NEW THINGAMAJIG (TMJ)
- It's got to be Global.
- Covenanted.
- It's like a Guild - but more of a Virtual Community.
- There will be a Common Vision - an over-arching and driving awareness 
  of what we're all about.  The last image like this that captured me was
  de Chardin's "Our task is to build the earth."  But that image is too
small -
  we have to include the whole universe.
  Only as we're able to align what we're about, with what the universe is
  about - with what we used to call "The activity of God" is about - with
  what the endlessness of the creative process is about - (will we have
  a vision big enough).  This includes the indellible fact that we would all
  like to forget:  that we all will pass away.
- This TMJ needs a framework. Perhaps it will look like a retreat center.  
  I never liked the idea of "retreating" - but this would be "retreat in
order 
  to attack".  A way to reframe - refocus -   re-think-through - so we're 
  able to answer the next big question coming up, in order to charge 
  the next windmill effectively.  
- This TMJ has to have strategic focus - can't just be shotgun stuff.  
  Though there may be a shotgun aspect to it at times - fire and see 
  who screams because one of the pellets hit them.
- This TMJ sings New Songs and has New Poetry, but hasn't forgotten
  the Old Songs and Old Poetry.  It's constantly creating new rationales,
  but it hasn't forgotten Plato and Aristotle or the great fathers of the
church.
  It has roots and tentacles.
- It has some kind of corporate office when it gathers.  (Maybe), "Well, 
  here we are.  What do you think we should do?"  (George asks for a
  response from the group, and they say together:  "We don't know - what
  do YOU think?")  In a time of a kind of question-mark - that's a damned
  good little corporate office.
- What we DO know is that this TMJ is not about ready, shoot, aim.
  We've learned to manipulate contradictions, proposals, (methods) 
  and we've gotten so good at it that we can make them come out
  any way we want.  We've got to get beyond that - and that's gonna
  take work.  I suspect it's gonna take a lot of silence.
- Its members have a locally-grounded personal practice.
- Its members are grounded in action at the local level, addressing
  real human contradictions.
- These will be people that understand that this ranges from your
  parakete to the universe.  You don't leave your parakete out, you
  just put it in context.

So what's the next 30 years?  I don't have a clue.

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Janice Ulangca
3413 Stratford Drive
Vestal, NY  13850
607-797-4595
aulangca at stny.rr.com
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