[Oe List ...] {Spam?} Re: the dead don't get no respect...

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 Carrie Neff is not among the dead; her demise is somewhat exaggerated, as she still resides in the windy city.



 


 

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From: W. J. <synergi at yahoo.com>
To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at wedgeblade.net>
Sent: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:47 pm
Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] the dead don't get no respect...










Thank you John. That name rings a bell. I assume she's among the dead. Anybody know otherwise?
  
Marshall
  


John Montgomery <monkeyltd at comcast.net> wrote:
  
                
  
Carrrie Neff
  
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John C. Montgomery
  
monkeyltd at comcast.net
  
john.montgomery at acfb.org
  
678-468-4913 (personal)
  
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From: oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net [mailto:oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of Lynda Cock
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 7:38 PM
To: 'Order Ecumenical Community'
Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] the dead don't get no respect...

  
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What a list!? 
  
I'm
 afraid to start naming folks for fear of leaving some out,but I thought of all the preschool teachers who have been there for eons.? You'd have to get the full names from Ruth Carter.? One who was the teacher of? our son Jeremiah (30 years ago) is still there: Mrs. Manuel.? Wonder how many children have been touched by the 5th City Preschool????
  
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I also thought of the block club work that Mr. Connie was so instrumental in.? Thank you for?your work in?pulling this?together.????
  
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From: oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net [mailto:oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of W. J.
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 7:03 PM
To: oe at wedgeblade.net
Subject: [Oe List ...] the dead don't get no
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I've been having an amazing time recently putting together the elements of the two DVD's that will?shortly be available through ICAI. It's been a journey back through our whole history together since 1965 and even beyond that.

  
  
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And one of the last-minute tasks has been assembling?an 'honor roll'?of Fifth Citizens who changed history by their intentional?expenditure?and died their deaths. I've called them the Fifth City Pioneers, since that word 'saint' is so out of fashion if you're not Mother Teresa.

  
 
 
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So we have our own Fifth City Saints, and the first qualification of a saint is that you're dead. I decided that the second qualification is that somebody remembers your name. And the third qualification is that you're standing in for the many who will not be remembered. There's no moral hierarchy here. No saying that one was better than another, or that one contributed more than another. 'Cause death is the great equalizer. And they all did their profound doing together, along with those of us who remain in this world. But what sets them apart from us is their profound dying.

  
  
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So here's my text so far:

  
  
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We celebrate
  
the courage and creativity
  
of these Fifth Citizens 
  
who pioneered in
  
Human
 Development
  
on behalf of all
  
communities
  
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Allen Adams
  
Eugene Beasley
  
James Carter
  
Anna Conar
  
Dorothy Cotton?
  
Helen Eskridge
  
Evelyn Mathews Edwards
  
Ray Fox
  
Flozell Foy
  
William Glover
  
Joseph Wesley Mathews
  
Joseph Pierce
  
Mildred Robinson
  
James Steplight
  
Charlie Stewart
  
Gregory Thomas 
  
Tom Washington
  
  
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It's interesting that there are many we don't remember clearly or don't know for sure have met the first criterion. But there they are. Quite a list, huh? Kind of like that scene in Our Town where all the dead people are sitting in rows of chairs in the cemetery and talking with each other. About us!

  
  
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And...someday we'll all be added to the list.

  
  
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I said to Ruth Carter that I wanted to finish this DVD project so I could die happy. And that, y'know, we don't have a cemetery in Fifth City where we could all be buried and maybe remembered with a tombstone. Then I thought: that whole place is holy ground, not just the cemetary we don't have. We don't have the tombstones to remember people by, but we will have the DVD that will carry their names on a digital list and tell our stories.

  
  
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Then I put together a second list, this one with the names of the living legends of Fifth City. Here it is:

  
  
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...and the extraordinary service
  
of these Fifth City leaders:
  
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Ruth Carter
  
Booker Davis
  
Minnie Dunlap
  
Lillie Fox
  
Gladys Hamilton 
  
George McNeil
  
Lela Mosley
  
Bertha Pinkston
  
Floyd Stanley
  
Verdell Trice
  
  
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Also quite a list! They may be old, but they're not yet totally dead, as far as we know.

  
  
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So if you have any stories or reflections you'd like to share about any of these folks, please do so. And if there are any names?that you'd like to add or subtract, please let me know.

  
  
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Marshall Jones

  
  
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