[Oe List ...] Wal-Mart and the weapons of mass destruction

David Walters walters at alaweb.com
Tue Apr 8 17:32:40 EDT 2008


In the spring of 1978 I spent a weekend at an Auzillary Training
School at Pace,MS. Some fellow, I think he was a Professor Rebstock,
taught the Economics section. I learned more from him than I did in
several Econ courses in college. So I guess at least some of us
EI/ICA folks knew a lot about econmics. (Of course we should no talk
about the miadventures of Robert Shropshire and his collegues in the
Australiaan outback in the sheep raising venture)

David Walters  


you wrote:
>>I don't think we (ICA/EI) knew a helluva lot about economics.
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Marianna Bailey <wmbailey at charter.net>
>>To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at wedgeblade.net>
>>Sent: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 3:04 pm
>>Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Wal-Mart and the weapons of mass
>destruction
>>
>>Let's not forget the economic principles that we used in human
>development 
>>projects.Money should circulate 5 times before it leaves a
>community. When 
>>Wal-Mart comes into a town small family owned businesses that have
>been 
>>their for several generations go out of business. The family owned 
>>business circulated the money 5 times and use to pay living wages. 
>>Wal-Mart pays low wages and the money leaves the community everyday.
>What 
>>we gain short term by low prices does not reflect the long term 
>>consequences of our local economy.
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: <mailto:cdhahn at flash.net>Charles or Doris Hahn
>>To: <mailto:oe at wedgeblade.net>Order Ecumenical Community
>>Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 1:44 PM
>>Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Wal-Mart and the weapons of mass
>destruction
>>
>>I want to second Randy's comments, and add another concern.  We shop
>a 
>>little at Walmart here in Bloomington and earlier in Bastrop.  The
>people 
>>we see in Walmart are primarily people in well-worn clothes, many
>are 
>>unkempt, i.e. they are people one the lower end of economic
>hierarchy.  If 
>>they have a job, they do not make much, and perhaps they have more
>than 
>>one part-time job.  They can't go to Macy's and it's many 
>>equivalents.  Also Walmart has no more imports than Macy's, or
>Talbots, or 
>>Penny's, or Sears, or Target.   I do not see aged, or handicapped,
>or many 
>>minorities working at Macy's, etc.  Enough badmouthing  Walmart!!!
>>Charles Hahn
>>
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message ----
>>From: R Williams <<mailto:rcwmbw at yahoo.com>rcwmbw at yahoo.com>
>>To: Order Ecumenical Community
><<mailto:oe at wedgeblade.net>oe at wedgeblade.net>
>>Sent: Tuesday, April 8, 2008 8:53:39 AM
>>Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Wal-Mart and the weapons of mass
>destruction
>>
>>I am in complete agreement with everything George, Jon, Marshall, et
>al 
>>are saying about Walmart.  But there is one little twinge I have. 
>In our 
>>town of 5,600 people there is a Walmart of course, and I have been
>in 
>>there.  Here's my twinge.  The employees there, regardless of
>deplorable 
>>wages, benefits, working conditions and the rest, because of
>education, 
>>age, disabilities or whatever, likely would not have jobs anywhere 
>>else.  What are we to think of them?
>>
>>Randy
>>
>>George Holcombe
><<mailto:geowanda at earthlink.net>geowanda at earthlink.net> 
>>wrote:
>>I suppose we're fortunate in Austin, TX, many of our local chains
>like 
>>H.E.B. and Fiesta have better prices on the items that we buy than
>Wal 
>>Mart.  I understand that due to a suit that Wall Mart has withdrawn
>its 
>>claim to have the lowest prices.  Both H.E.B. and Fiesta have far
>better 
>>and fresher produce than Wal Mart.  I wouldn't doubt that because of
>the 
>>fuel increases and the far flung shipping  routes that Wal Mart
>uses, the 
>>locals, who buy local, may have an advantage in their costs and
>prices for 
>>their customers.
>>
>>George Holcombe
>>14900 Yellowleaf Tr.
>>Austin, TX 78728
>>Home: 512/252-2756
>>Mobile 512/294-5952
>><mailto:geowanda at earthlink.net>geowanda at earthlink.net
>>
>>On Apr 7, 2008, at 3:08 PM,
><mailto:jonzondo at juno.com>jonzondo at juno.com wrote:
>>>I have not shopped at WalMart in years.  And what I find amazing is
>the 
>>>number of "aware" persons in my life who have a bundle of excuses
>for why 
>>>they continue to shop at Walmart.  The brainwashing machine surely
>seems 
>>>to work sometimes, eh?
>>>
>>>My new idea is that for the next person I know who speaks of
>shopping for 
>>>something at WalMart, I will offer to pay the difference if they go
>to 
>>>another store.  I wonder what will happen with that idea...
>>>In Balance,   Jon
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>-- "W. J." <<mailto:synergi at yahoo.com>synergi at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>But wait! Wal-Mart is just a good target for our outrage, After
>all, it's 
>>>the world's most powerful delivery system for exploiting a global
>market 
>>>economy which wields the economic weapons of mass destruction.
>>>
>>>Ah, yes. The tyranny of the economic process. It's coming back to
>bite 
>>>even those of the affluent 15% who believed that the U.S. housing
>market 
>>>would never deflate, and bought in at the top of the speculative
>bubble. 
>>>(For the story in Wiegel's area, see 
>>><http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/06/realestate/keymagazine/406ariz-t
>.html?ei=5087&em=&en=136025ebaea46e85&ex=1207713600&pagewanted=all>ht
>tp://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/06/realestate/keymagazine/406ariz-t.html
>?ei=5087&em=&en=136025ebaea46e85&ex=1207713600&pagewanted=all) 
>>>
>>>
>>>
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