[Oe List ...] NPR the story of two Illinois people and their faith

Diann McCabe dm14 at txstate.edu
Mon Feb 4 15:10:53 EST 2008


Pat,
I heard Bill Holmes give a series of guest sermons on prayer in Denton (UMC)
in the mid-80s.  He visited from his church in D.C.  His talks on prayer
were very familiar from our Order memory and were like oxygen.  I still have
the tapes.  

Diann McCabe
San Marcos, TX


On 2/4/08 1:55 PM, "Patricia Tuecke" <ptuecke at charter.net> wrote:

> As I read these messages, I am reminded of my first encounter with what I
> later came to realize was RS-1, which might throw some light on the question
> "did she or didn't she?"
> 
> I was a member of a Methodist Church in Dallas circa 1960 (the name of which
> escapes me right now - it's dangling just outside my brain) Our pastor, Bill
> Holmes, had taken a course (probably PLC) at the Christian Faith and Life
> Community in Austin at UT. He began a study group at the church. I don't
> remember what he called it; it was one night a week for 5 or 6 weeks. My
> husband & I took the first one. The course became our congregation's
> membership training. It was strongly suggested to participate in the course
> if you joined our congregation.
> 
> Later, when I lived in Oklahoma City, I was involved with a liberal,
> multi-denominational group of church people who met together regularly about
> church renewal. We went to an Ecumenical Institute Course (100
> participants!) which I recognized as the same study I had done in Texas.
> 
> I'm thinking that maybe Don Jones did some sort of similar thing at Park
> Ridge. Not the exact format as the RS-1 and perhaps called something else,
> but tailored to the youth and using much of the RS-1/PLC content - thus the
> uncertainty around the question - "did SHE take RS-1?"
> 
> And, hey, y'all, Happy Mardi Gras (tomorrow), Chinese New Year (Thursday),
> and of course, love to you on Valentine's Day.
> 
> Pat
> 
> Patricia R. Tuecke, Sierra Circle Consulting
> Facilitating Strategic Decisions!
> 775-333-6998   ptuecke at charter.net
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net [mailto:oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net] On Behalf
> Of Charles or Doris Hahn
> Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 8:12 PM
> To: Order Ecumenical Community
> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] NPR the story of two Illinois people and their
> faith
> 
> Don Warren, who lives here in Bloomington (former Dean
> of the School of Education here at Indiana U.) taught
> the course that Hillary took. I don't think it was
> RS-1 as such, but certainly had some of the elements
> in it. Could also be that Don Jones took courses at
> the Institute and used the wisdom with his youth
> group, but that is just speculation. Don Warren's role
> is reported by Don himself.
> 
> Doris Hahn
> 
> 
> --- Lifeline248 at aol.com wrote:
> 
>> Ruth, Len, and colleague
>>     I recently came across a   paperback biography,
>> Hillary Cllinton: The
>> Inside Story by Judith Warner (1993, updated in
>> 1999).   I bought it precisely so
>> I could find out if her involvement with RS-1 (which
>> some colleagues had
>> mentioned years ago) was direct or second-hand
>> through her church.
>>     Chapter 2:   The author interviewed the Rev. Don
>> Jones, "a Methodist
>> minister fresh out of Drew University Theological
>> School who had just been
>> assigned to the Rodhams' church, First Methodist, to
>> work with the parish's
>> teenagers..."   He brought the kids to the
>> inner-city and mentions Hillary and her
>> friends' babysitting involvement with migrant
>> workers who lived in farmlands near
>> Park Ridge.     
>>     "Jones had studied under Tillich and had been
>> exposed to creative new
>> methods of relating theology to art and culture.
>> He took these teachings with
>> him to Park Ridge, where he exposed the high school
>> kids to Picasso, e.e.
>> cummings, and Stephen Crane. ... screened films like
>> Requiem for a Heavyweight...."
>>   What then follows is an art form conversation on
>> Guernica.
>>     Interesting.
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