[Oe List ...] all the earth belongs to all the people

John Cock jpc2025 at triad.rr.com
Sat Aug 29 14:31:52 CDT 2009


Jann, we also said and sang "the Earth belongs to ALL," but we did use
"people/man/men/mankind" big time. We were pretty comprehensive and
inclusive for the times, I think, as we lived and worked with every kind of
human everywhere (maybe not many terrorists), and set up women's programs
globally, especially in the villages. We did very little with animal rights
but did many intentional greening projects.
 
I observe that human society as a whole is basically human-centered -- I
know I am -- yet the "Earth community" concept is evolving noticeably,
awaiting big practical decision and action, e.g., global warming, though
Europe, Japan, and others are leading the way. I applaud the efforts of Paul
Hawken, et al., for creating the unbelievable green movement database
globally.
 
John

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Susan,
 
I love it that your voice is here. 
 
It isn't socialism we've fallen into so rapidly, in my humble opinion. It is
corporations ruling the government and thus all of us. Talk about
diminishing to nothing the human spirit. Is this an evil that the U.S. is
destined to act out to its full extent, as the USSR seemed to with their
brand of socialism?
 
I enjoy being on Medicare, and still I pay $550/month for health insurance.
That includes a long-term home health care policy that will be so difficult
and complicated to make a claim on when/if I need it, I'm not at all sure it
will ever pay anything. Fred's didn't. For dental and vision care, I'm on my
own. Surely we can do better than this.
 
By the way, in the spirit of speaking from the center of the table, can we
change "all the earth belongs to all the people" to "all the earth belongs
to all the animals, plants, soil and minerals" or something a little more
comprehensive?
 
In gratitude for this wise community whom I love,
Jann McGuire 
 
Jack and Paul, First of all, I appreciate your taking my question seriously
and not just dismissing it as uncaring or unthinking.
 
Next, I think what has always distinguished people of successful community
is that they CHOOSE to care for each other.  Not that there is a governing
body (the Soviet?) requiring it and thereby diminishing to nothing the human
spirit.
 
Finally, I do not believe that anyone or any government "owes" me medical
care, or food, or a home, or a car, or any of the things that everyone seems
to take for granted. If I am unable to provide those things for myself, then
I truly do hope there will be kind and generous people who will help me.
But not, please God, my government.
 
I have been so dismayed by our pell mell helter skelter descent into
socialism within an oh-so-short handful of months that I am no longer a
conservative.  I have lost all balance I ever had and have fallen right over
into libertarianism (not, of course, the LaRouche style version).  
 
Susan
 

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