[Oe List ...] OE Digest, Vol 68, Issue 4

Tue Dec 1 18:18:27 CST 2009

Hi I am so sorry for I truly didn't mean gratefulness in that I'm grateful that I have it so much better than so many others in this world-  these slides bring up deep, deep sadness- and yes compassion. (I joined the Order because I saw so much sorrow, inequity, innocent suffering in the world and I wanted to help in some kind of meaningful way. I didn't know at the time that I would receive so much in return!)

What I meant to say that I tend to complain and over focus on my own life far too much and many times do not show/feel enough gratitude to the people in my life or for so many small things that I take for granted- clean water (access to water!), a home, a family, food & all the people's labor that goes into what I eat everyday etc...  And sorrow that so many are destitute, hungry, hit by natural disaster, just trying to barely survive- and are/will be the first to experience the profound effects and all the innumerable consequences of global warming- drought, starvation, disease, uprootedness, warfare...

I am grateful for colleagues in my life. 
Debra 

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Gratefulness slide show (Marianna Bailey)
   2. Re: Gratefulness slide show (Bill Parker)

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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 17:04:33 -0500
From: "Marianna Bailey" <wmbailey at charter.net>
Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Gratefulness slide show
To: "Order Ecumenical Community" <oe at wedgeblade.net>
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To me it called for compassion, not gratefulness.
mb
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bill Schlesinger 
  To: 'Order Ecumenical Community' 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 4:08 PM
  Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Gratefulness slide show

  There's survivor's guilt as well as gratitude.  The sadness of starvation and neglect doesn't fill me with gratitude either.  'There is something in the misfortune of our closest friends that does not displease us' - or makes us thankful - seems more related to what Tillich called sin as separation.  

  FWIW

  Bill Schlesinger
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  From: oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net [mailto:oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of Herman Greene
  Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 1:55 PM
  To: 'Order Ecumenical Community'
  Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Gratefulness slide show

  Perspective is important, but in general I don't find gratitude in knowing others are worse off than me.

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  From: oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net [mailto:oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of Debra Harris-Watson
  Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 10:46 AM
  To: oe at wedgeblade.net
  Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Gratefulness slide show

        Hi A.M.,  These are powerful images & message.  Does it come as a slideshow? (The attachments were scrubbed but openable). I want to share but concerned others may not take time to open all the attachments.  Is there a website?   Thanks so much for sharing this- it immediately made me feel grateful for all that I have in my life!  

        Debra Harris

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        1. FW: Voted the BEST EMAIL of this Year (A.M. Noel)

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          Some incredible pictures a friend sent me. 

          Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 1:17 AM

          Subject: FW: Voted the BEST EMAIL of this Year

          If you think you are unhappy, look at them 

          If you think your salary is low, how about her?

          If you think you don't have many friends.....

          When you feel like giving up, think of this man

          If you think you suffer in life, do you suffer as much as he does?

          If you complain about your transport system, how about them?

          If your society is unfair to you, how about her? 

          This email needs to circulate forever...

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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 16:30:32 -0600
From: "Bill Parker" <bparker175 at cox.net>
Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Gratefulness slide show
To: "Order Ecumenical Community" <oe at wedgeblade.net>
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What do you find in knowing others are worse off than you?
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Herman Greene 
  To: 'Order Ecumenical Community' 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 2:55 PM
  Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Gratefulness slide show