[Oe List ...] Sakmon: MORE ON Wedding rehearsal questions . . .

Wed May 27 05:34:09 EDT 2009

William SAKMON!

Thou art Bill!  And you are still as wiry as ever.

Thanks for the wedding reception narrative.

Jaime

-----Original Message-----
From: William Salmon <wsalmon at cox.net>
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Sent: Tue, 26 May 2009 11:23 pm
Subject: [Oe List ...] Sakmon: MORE ON Wedding rehearsal questions . . .

Dear All --

    Just a reflection on the questions associated with our marriages. 
Beverly and I continue to use them at every opportunity with whoever is 
celebrating an anniversary. We've reduced them to just these:

1)    What was significant about this last year?

2)    What do you anticipate for this next year?

3)    Living in the ambiguity between a cosmic Yes and No, have you 
been faithful to your wedding vows this past year?

    In the last 15 years, and during the last 5 years of an active 
ministry, I found that the wedding reception could be made more 
meaningful, and more holy, than the wedding vows.

    During the cutting of the Wedding Cake, I provided a context about 
the serious significance of the "wedding covenant," and its 
relationship to our covenant with God.

    I reminded the audience, and the couple, that when a Hebrew couple 
wanted to get married they presented themselves to the "city dads" at 
the city gat
e. When they stated their intentions to get married, these 
synagogue officials asked, "Show us your covenant."

    At this time they exchanged coats/cloaks as a sign of wearing each 
other; and exchanged purses as a symbol of accepting the resources and 
debts of each; they noted that the friends and the enemies of each 
other were accepted; they took a knife and cut into their hands a 
"family symbol" and co-mingled their blood; this sign in their palm 
also showed to others "to whom they belonged."

    Then, I ask the couple to kneel behind their cake.

    The couple breaks off a piece of the cake to feed each other as a 
sign they commit themselves to "eating each" so as to embody each 
within themselves; finally, they take of cup of juice or wine, and they 
drink from the cup of their opposite as a sign of embodying the blood 
of the other.

    At this time, I remind the couple and the audience of the 
similarity to Holy Communion, or the Eucharist. I ask all who listen 
why it was never recorded in the Bible the resistance of the Disciples 
to the cannibalistic nature of this activity? Why didn't someone say, 
"Yech?"

    The answer is that the Disciples, "on the night that Jesus was 
betrayed," knew exactly what was going on. The Hebrews has 
celebrated the process of covenanting for 2,000 yea
rs!

    It is this seriousness that the couple are now taking on their 
relationship in this "Covenant of Marriage."

    The basis of these activities is the old "Blood Covenant," and was 
demonstrated in the relationship between David and Jonathan.

    Inner Peace.  Bill Salmon

PS: It always intrigues me to see my name associated with 
emotional--sometimes even passionate--remarks, and then to discover 
they are talking about Bill with the Red Hair.

    Shucks.

    Pastor Bill  

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From: Rod Rippel

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Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 11:49 AM

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Jim:    I don't recall any "standardized' questions for the rehearsal 
dinner, but I found my actual notes for the questions asked at Karen 
Synder and Jim Troxel's dinner, 3/10/1969:

    Qns to the group of colleagues assembled:

        1.  What do you see going on in marriages that would make you 
want to get married?

        2.    What observe in new marriages?

        3.    What observe in the old marriages? (apparently directed 
to marr's in the20Order over the past quarters.)

        4.    What's going on in Non-Western marriages?

        5.    What's going on in marriages in College 2?  (dinner 
attendees were selected from their college.)

        6.     What do you see in marriages of the future?

    Qns of the Troxels and the group:

        7.    No reason for marriage as we know it.  Why are you 
getting married?  Where are your doubts?  Where the struggle?

        8.    What's taking place in the future for the Troxel family?  
What is going to happen?

    Qn asked of Jim and Karen:

        9.  What do you see going to happen in the Troxel marriage?

        Jim, hope these are helpful.  I also have notes on answer given 
at that meal...probably not to relevant.

Rod Rippel 

----- Original Message -----

From: James Wiegel

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Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 7:00 PM

Subject: [Oe List ...] Wedding rehearsal questions . . .

What were the conversation questions used as a part of the rehears
al 
dinner??

Jim Wiegel

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