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SVESjaime at aol.com
Sat Nov 21 23:03:05 CST 2009
Jack,
You may keep your three categories and call it Herman's the Earth Process
instead of the Creative Process. That will work. You guys are further
ahead than some of us who occasionally re-label the wonderful insight that the
whole social process triangle is and can be.
As indicated in JWM's note located by Marge, we are referring to a single
but interrelated life process. We are not quite ready to do the Universe
Process, I do not think, but Earth process is within the scope of our
corporate understanding.
Jaime
Saipan
In a message dated 11/22/009 6:00:04 A.M. West Pacific Standard Tim,
icabombay at igc.org writes:
Herman,
I have done some work on this question. I said to myself that the
'foundational process' is what I called The Natural Process but I
think Earth Process would work as well. On the right side I had
the Social Process, the 'organizing process' and at the top I had the
Human Process, the 'meaning process'. I call the whole new triangle
the Creative Process, but there might be another name that would be
better. I have worked through a couple of levels of the the two new
triangles but am not ready to share just yet. A good "research
project" for the Diaspora!
Jack
On Nov 21, 2009, at 12:26 PM, Herman Greene wrote:
> That's a good statement and worth archiving!
>
> Occasionally I muse on how to place the social process into the Earth
> process. I haven't had a brilliant idea about this yet. One approach
> is to
> have an Earth process set of triangles (like the carbon cycle, the
> hydrological cycle, etc.) parallel to the social process. Another
> approach
> is to have the Earth process in the middle triangle of the social
> process
> triangles. Another is to redo the social process triangles to include
> interactions with nature.
>
> I haven't really done much except muse about this. (One approach I
> saw that
> I question is to apply the social process to nature--it's not entirely
> unfruitful but it seems like an artificial imposition on the natural
> processes rather than beginning with the natural process itself.)
>
> I wonder if anyone else has thought about this.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf
> Of Marge Philbrook
> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 10:09 AM
> To: Colleague Dialogue; OE list
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> I'm having fun trying to figure out my plan for the archives. I just
> found this note in Joe's handwriting.
> "1. The social process is a complex dynamic that involves the
> inter-relation of the Economic processes (which maintain basic
> existence); the Political processes (which provides social existence);
> and the Cultural processes (which enables rational or intentional
> existence. Because the social process is dynamical in nature, none of
> these separate processes exists in itself. Each is dependent on the
> others. Society is relationships, when one part is malfunctioning or
> tyranizing over the others society as a whole is ill.
> 2." There was no 2.
>
> So where should I file this? in B401 Joe's papers, or G1904 the Social
> Process category which I just added to the list as I have gone over
> material about researching the social process triangles.
>
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