[Oe List ...] all the earth belongs to all the people

Tue Sep 1 22:03:49 CDT 2009

Dear Colleagues,

I am likely joining this conversation late in the game, but I have heard
some thoughts that I would like to note. 

Yours, Susan, is special. 

May I say, "Yes!", among others, I'm so glad you are back in the fold of
our conversation.  We need your perspective.

Knowing that you worked for the US government recently -- was it for the
State Department? -- I'm wondering if you have well and truly decided to
refuse the so-called "entitlements" including medical care, suggested by
your note below, "but not, please God, my government."  Wow, if so, I
wish you could encourage our legislators to either do the same, or
provide what they are getting for the rest of us, who are paying their
salaries!

I think many of us, not as "entitled," who know our legislators are
enjoying quite fine "perks," lots more lavish than any we would ever
imagine, would say to you, "Yes, Susan, go for it -- you have given it up
and so let's talk about what is the alternative for those of us who have
spent our lives in service, but now need something more than what the
health market will provide?"

I'm wondering how we, as colleagues, can begin to "reach across the
aisle" and explore some strategies that we could together, propose or
promote.  

Joe and I are in Maine with two highly informed and responsive, moderate
Republican Senators who, if any others, represent a possibility for
collaboration, partnership, consensus in  the Senate on so many of our
nation's key issues.

I'm wondering how we might continue our conversation on line based on
discerning how we can at this time more fully realize our history long
vision : all the earth belongs to all the people-- but without the slings
and arrows of partisan barbs.  What if we imagined ourselves sitting
around the collegium table, praying over the globe, together, once again.

Grace, peace and love,

Marilyn

On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 14:41:22 EDT LAURELCG at aol.com writes:
Susan,

I love it that your voice is here. 

It isn't socialism we've fallen into so rapidly, in my humble opinion. It
is corporations ruling the government and thus all of us. Talk about
diminishing to nothing the human spirit. Is this an evil that the U.S. is
destined to act out to its full extent, as the USSR seemed to with their
brand of socialism?

I enjoy being on Medicare, and still I pay $550/month for health
insurance. That includes a long-term home health care policy that will be
so difficult and complicated to make a claim on when/if I need it, I'm
not at all sure it will ever pay anything. Fred's didn't. For dental and
vision care, I'm on my own. Surely we can do better than this.

By the way, in the spirit of speaking from the center of the table, can
we change "all the earth belongs to all the people" to "all the earth
belongs to all the animals, plants, soil and minerals" or something a
little more comprehensive?

In gratitude for this wise community whom I love,
Jann McGuire 

Jack and Paul, First of all, I appreciate your taking my question
seriously and not just dismissing it as uncaring or unthinking.

Next, I think what has always distinguished people of successful
community is that they CHOOSE to care for each other.  Not that there is
a governing body (the Soviet?) requiring it and thereby diminishing to
nothing the human spirit.

Finally, I do not believe that anyone or any government "owes" me medical
care, or food, or a home, or a car, or any of the things that everyone
seems to take for granted. If I am unable to provide those things for
myself, then I truly do hope there will be kind and generous people who
will help me.  But not, please God, my government.

I have been so dismayed by our pell mell helter skelter descent into
socialism within an oh-so-short handful of months that I am no longer a
conservative.  I have lost all balance I ever had and have fallen right
over into libertarianism (not, of course, the LaRouche style version).  

Susan

Marilyn R. Crocker, Ed.D
Crocker & Associates, Inc.
123 Sanborn Road
West Newfield, ME 04095
(207) 793-3711
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