[Oe List ...] Health Care -current state in Congress

Wed Sep 2 16:15:31 CDT 2009

I believe that this Acorn story is just another false flag story put out by the republican spin machine.
David Walters

  Apparently the government is now using our tax dollars to pay Acorn to attend these meetings all over the place to make a lot of noise in favor of the President's plan. 

  Susan 

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  From: oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net [mailto:oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of Marsha Hahn
  Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 10:27 AM
  To: Order Ecumenical Community
  Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Health Care -current state in Congress

  Pat and I attempted to attend a town meeting hosted by our very progressive congresswoman last night.  Hundreds and hundreds of people were there.  We waited in line, but had not arrived early enough to get in.  Apparently, you needed to get there about 2 hours early.  We had an interesting and somewhat creepy experience, though.  We were sandwiched in line between two very vocal anti-public option, anti-change pairs of people.  The guy behind us made a really rude remark which got dear Pat's "Irish" up.  Pat turned around and suggested the guy can it (in much more florid language).  The guy's response was to ask Pat if he wanted to continue the discussion in front of the TV cameras.  Interesting.  Pat just turned around and ignored him at that point.  A couple of minutes later we learned that we would not be able to get in, so we left the line and walked to another area.  Within a minute, the same guy who had been behind us in line approached us with a somewhat conciliatory tone.  Pat walked off, but I decided to talk to him.  He was very prepared with his arguments, and at one point he mentioned he was from Buffalo NY.  I asked him why he was at our town meeting in Chicago, at which point he looked nervous, was silent for a moment, then stated that "no one paid me to be here,"  I pressed him and he finally said he'd had business in Chicago, and had decided to come to the town meeting.  I do not believe it.  He was clearly there to stir things up.  I don't know who he was representing, but there's no doubt in my mind the role he was playing.

  Good luck, Ann.  It was a very emotionally charged atmosphere here, and I'm sure it will be in Texas.  Keep your cool and get there early.

  Marsha

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  From: Ann Shafer <asgoodasitgets at earthlink.net>
  To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at wedgeblade.net>
  Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2009 7:24:24 AM
  Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Health Care -current state in Congress

  Janice, Thank you so much for the helpful information from HealthCareForAmericaNow.Org. We have a town meeting here on Thursday with our very conservative congressman. I am planning to go with a letter written that I can leave with his aids and a statement. I am also emailing others who should be there. I am open to comments from anyone on what the best way to attend this meeting and help bust the myths around this health care bill are. Thanks. Ann Shafer in Fredericksburg Texas

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  From: oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net [mailto:oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of Janice Ulangca
  Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 11:38 PM
  To: Order Ecumenical Community
  Subject: [Oe List ...] Health Care -current state in Congress

  Colleagues,

  August 27 I attended a meeting where a representative of a national coalition for healthcare reform gave a 2 hour power point presentation on the bills currently in congress.  HCAN - Healthcare for America Now is a coalition of liberal groups - unions, community organizations, Latino and African American organizations, etc.  Their web site is www.HealthCareForAmericaNow.org    What they stand for can be found by clicking the About Us tab at the top.  Seems like a very good list to me.  Whether you agree with their positions or not, you might find the  page on the current step of the legislative process useful.  They say they update this page frequently - it was last updated August 26.  That version is copied below.  Links to the full text of bills are on this page.

  As you may know, there is no single health care bill now.  So there is no definite bill to either support or oppose.  Things are moving fast, though.  So phone calls are important - stating what is important to you.  Lobbyists are certainly active - we'd better be.

  Janice Ulangca

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  From the HCAN web site:

  Completed Steps
  Click on each completed step to see where we've been and what we've accomplished towards our goal of winning quality, affordable health care for all. 

  Step 1: Initial Proposals 

  Step 2: Committees Hold Hearings/Draft Legislation 

  CURRENT STEP - Step 3: Committees Pass Legislation
  Because health reform legislation is so complicated, five different committees - three in the House and two in the Senate - are entitled to have some say in the legislation. Each House and Senate committee in charge of different parts of health care reform has been holding hearings and drafting legislation. Committees consider their first draft, usually called the Chairman's mark, in a process called "mark-up." During these committee meetings, members propose changes to the Chairman's mark (amendments) and then vote on final approval in their committee. The committees may consider hundreds on amendments in the process. 

  Once each committee completes its process, the two Senate committees will combine their bills and work out any differences to bring one bill to the Senate floor. The same process will be happening among the committees working in the House. The committees involved in health care reform have pledged to work together to minimize differences and make this process easier.  

  Where We Are Now 

  In the Senate, the HELP Committee has passed a health reform bill (full text, pdf) that includes a strong public health insurance option. (Click herefor Health Care for America Now's statement on the HELP bill.) The Finance Committee is expected to begin the markup process when they have agreed on a starting draft. After both committees pass bills, they will be combined together to be moved to the Senate floor for amendments by the whole Senate and a full vote. 

  In the House, the Chairmen of the three committees of juristiction - Ways and Means, Energy and Commerce, and Education and Labor - have released a combined "tri-committee" bill. The bill meets all of Health Care for America Now's principles (fact sheets, changes from House draft [pdf], committee summery of the bill [pdf]). All three committees held hearings on the bill draft in June and each are marking up the package now. Like in the Senate, the committees will combine their bills into one package and take it to the House floor for a vote. The House Ways and Means Committee (roll call), Education and Labor Committee (roll call), and Energy and Commerce Committee (roll call) have passed the health reform bill, HR 3200, and referred it to the full House. 

  When Congress gets back from recess on September 8th, the House will vote on HR 3200. The Senate should also refer a bill to the floor for a vote around the same time. Both committees in the Senate will have to vote out bills by the October 15th reconciliation deadline to maintain the reconciliation option. 

  After both houses pass a bill, the House and Senate will resolve their differences in "conference." When they agree to one bill, it goes back to the Senate and House for final votes, then to president Obama for his signature. 

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