[Oe List ...] Health Care - engagement
Jean Watts
jeanwatts at cox.net
Tue Sep 8 12:35:46 CDT 2009
Jim, I've never uncovered underlying assumptions using the workshop process.
I have never been trying to get a consensus at this point but only wanted to
establish the most appropriate environment/context for the visioning
process. I've used either a modified form of the paradigm shift framework
or the spiral dynamics framework to uncover these underlying assumptions.
While participating in the process itself somehow, the 'context' and
boundaries of the content, (e.g. what are we pointing to with the verbal
symbol 'health care?' gets clarified so everyone is on the same page.
Thus, this is 'the product' and the next step is the vision question and the
strategic planning process.
When using the paradigm shift framework, I ask questions like:
What practices, actions, approaches, policies etc. once worked but have now
disappeared, are no longer ineffective, or no longer do?
What practices, actions, approaches are presently standard operating
procedures or have been firmly established within this field or present
system?
What are innovative or new practices, actions, approaches that are being
tried or picking up momentum and acceptance?
What are creative ideas, never-tried approaches and practices that you think
just might work or are ideas beginning to emerge within this sector?
Once these have been listed, (they are already clustered under their
question using titles like Dying, Established, Emerging, Boundary), I ask
the group to list the underlying assumptions and beliefs under each cluster.
Reflections questions on the shifts, trends, etc. then follows. What is
important is that the group identifies what beliefs, values, or assumptions
manifested the various expressions which brought them to this present
situation.
Thus far, I have only used the spiral dynamic framework with a group of
academics or highly educated professionals. And so, it has been acceptable
to present the group with the values and assumptions already clustered into
Memes with their corresponding healthy and unhealthy expressions and ask the
group to identify where within their sector, field, or group they see each
taking place. Reflective questions then are asked on where they see people
open or ready to change and exactly where they (since they have been those
who have already taken responsibility for the change) are open or in the
process of changing.
To date, neither of these facilitation processes created a polarized debate
or discussion between the participants nor did it result in 'name calling'
or 'bad mouthing.'
I think that the first process would probably be easier, therefore quicker,
but the second one would set the context for a far more comprehensive vision
and plan.
However, one major differences in either case is that the group of
participants [which is probably only a small number of those on this list
serve - my assumption :)] that will be participating may not in the position
to implement their vision so any plan we come up with will be one that only
involves how we might influence those who are developing and implementing
it. So this exercise might tend to be experienced as rather abstract.
I think we might need to find out how many of the people on this list serve
are both interested in and have time to participate first. And then see
which process these individuals are most comfortable with.
This health care issue is not just a national one but a global one. But as
far as health care within the United States, the present consensus seems to
be to give the responsibility of decision making to our elected political
figures who most of who have never seen or experienced the kind of
facilitation processes we, as the Order helped develop. They use a very
different process to come up with their final decisions. So, I am asking
myself, why is this particular group even willing to take this vision
process on? Why even am I willing to? Why are you willing to?
Jean
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So, what would the workshop question be, Jean?
"What are our underlying assumptions and beliefs related to xxxx?"? or,
"What are the underlying assumptions and beliefs we see in people related to
this topic?" or,
"What are the underlying assumptions and beliefs we suspect are present that
make this topic so controversial?"
Do you get diametrically opposed ones?? do you organize them by topic (all
these are assumptions about the role of government) or by similar assumption
or belief?
What is next?? What do you do with the product?
I have a survey monkey account and would be happy to put up something if
people wanted to contribute and once I get back home (after the 24th) would
help with organizing, etc.
Jim
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--- On Sun, 9/6/09, Jean Watts <jeanwatts at cox.net> wrote:
From: Jean Watts <jeanwatts at cox.net>
Subject: [Oe List ...] Health Care - ENGAGEMENT
To: oe at wedgeblade.net
Date: Sunday, September 6, 2009, 9:51 AM
I found when facilitating groups focused on "health care" or "healthy
communities" that it was necessary to begin with a workshop that uncovered
the group's underlying assumptions and beliefs rather than their practical
vision.? It appeared that it was at this level where the "real" conflict of
perspective on the particular subject or content being discussed was rooted.
JWM use to say frequently that "We are always in the process of acting out
our self understanding."? Our "self understanding" is, in reality, these
underlying assumptions, beliefs, and values.? One of the ways these are
"acted out' is in the particular way we articulate our vision and solutions
to the issues within the content being discussed.
These underlying beliefs, assumptions, and values are always in a state of
movement or evolution.? So, by beginning at this point, it enabled the group
to begin with the present moment or situation rather than focusing on the
past stuff that has brought them to this present situation.
So, I think that this is where we as a group of caring individuals might
focus our discussion prior to answering the vision question.?
Namaste,
Jean
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Thanks, David.
I believe this can be facilitated over the listserve, though the gestalting
might be less participative than usual. Is there someone(s) who would be
willing to take on this task? I'm up to here right now, but would be happy
to play a second role. Seems to me the job will be:
? ? ? ???1. solicit responses to the question of vision: What would a
desirable health care system look like? What are components of the desired
system?
? ? ? ???2. Group the ideas into columns according to similarity.
? ? ? ???3. Post the columns on the listserve, and invite the group to
provide 3-4-word names (We want to see _____)
? ? ? ???4. Invite a discussion of the names (perhaps for a week) and then
settle on the ones with greatest consensus.
Move on to the contradictions and follow the same process; then to the
strategy.
The ToP network has a task force working on ways to facilitate virtual
meetings, and there are multiple software and web-based programmes that can
be used. Unfortunately most charge a fee and are complicated to learn, so
while we probably can't use them here, maybe someone from that group would
like to play a role in this on the listserve.
While this may be a tedious process for us, it may just possibly generate
some innovative ideas that are not yet in the national discussion. Who
knows?
John
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Good Jeanie,
You're ready to start it? What's the first question? How do we proceed?
Lets have this insight open the door rather than close it!
David Z
On Sep 6, 2009, at 5:51 PM, Jean Watts wrote:
I found when facilitating groups focused on "health care" or "healthy
communities" that it was necessary to begin with a workshop that
uncovered
the group's underlying assumptions and beliefs rather than their
practical
vision. It appeared that it was at this level where the "real"
conflict of
perspective on the particular subject or content being discussed was
rooted.
JWM use to say frequently that "We are always in the process of
acting out
our self understanding." Our "self understanding" is, in reality, these
underlying assumptions, beliefs, and values. One of the ways these are
"acted out' is in the particular way we articulate our vision and
solutions
to the issues within the content being discussed.
These underlying beliefs, assumptions, and values are always in a
state of
movement or evolution. So, by beginning at this point, it enabled
the group
to begin with the present moment or situation rather than focusing on
the
past stuff that has brought them to this present situation.
So, I think that this is where we as a group of caring individuals might
focus our discussion prior to answering the vision question.
Namaste,
Jean
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Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2009 11:17:36 +0800
From: "jlepps at pc.jaring.my" <jlepps at pc.jaring.my>
Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Health Care--ENGAGEMENT!
To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at wedgeblade.net>
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Thanks, David.
I believe this can be facilitated over the listserve, though the
gestalting
might be less participative than usual. Is there someone(s) who would be
willing to take on this task? I'm up to here right now, but would be
happy
to play a second role. Seems to me the job will be:
1. solicit responses to the question of vision: What would a
desirable health care system look like? What are components of the
desired
system?
2. Group the ideas into columns according to similarity.
3. Post the columns on the listserve, and invite the group to
provide 3-4-word names (We want to see _____)
4. Invite a discussion of the names (perhaps for a week)
and then
settle on the ones with greatest consensus.
Move on to the contradictions and follow the same process; then to the
strategy.
The ToP network has a task force working on ways to facilitate virtual
meetings, and there are multiple software and web-based programmes
that can
be used. Unfortunately most charge a fee and are complicated to
learn, so
while we probably can't use them here, maybe someone from that group
would
like to play a role in this on the listserve.
While this may be a tedious process for us, it may just possibly
generate
some innovative ideas that are not yet in the national discussion. Who
knows?
John
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