[Oe List ...] Health Care - engagement
Michael & Molly Shaw
mandmshaw at comcast.net
Tue Sep 8 21:04:03 CDT 2009
The state of Washington has invested in some sort of master license for
Elluminate. I work for the community college system (34 districts across
the state). The Business, Accounting, and Reporting staff used to meet for
a day and a half each quarter.
After Elluminate come on the scene, we only meet once face to face and over
Elluminate the other two times. It is an amazing tool. We now use it for
workshops, training, etc.
Wayne is right about getting used to the tool. We had a training session
with about 45 folks, before our first meeting. As the training was ending,
someone asked if anybody would like to share ideas about how they were going
to deal with the budget crisis. The facilitator had to leave, but left the
rest of us to meet for 45 minutes which was very helpful in getting a flavor
of different strategies being employed.
Peace,
Michael Shaw
Seattle, WA.
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From: oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net [mailto:oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net] On Behalf
Of Jean Watts
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 11:02 AM
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Subject: [Oe List ...] Health Care - engagement
Wayne,
I went to the website but couldn't get a feel as to how this tool works.
But I'ld be willing to pursue it. Will it work for either of the processes I
suggested to Jim?
Jean
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Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 10:00:36 -0400
From: Wayne Nelson <wnelson at ica-associates.ca>
Subject: [Oe List ...] Health Care - ENGAGEMENT
To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at wedgeblade.net>, Order Ecumenical
Community <oe at wedgeblade.net>, Jo Nelson
<jnelson at ica-associates.ca>
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We at ICA in Canada have a license for a tool called ?Elluminate.? It?s an
online tool in which we can do an entire workshop as well as other things.
We?re just learning to use it. We?ve done a couple of workshops and other
things with it. Our intention is to use it in client work. Without
question, it will pay its way. With shrinking budgets and travel fears
related to flu etc, this will hopefully position us to do substantial work
in the virtual environment.
You can try it out by going to http://elluminate.com. The trial version
only allows 3 people, so you and 2 others can get a feel for it. That?s what
Jo and I and John Miller did. Jo set it up and we did a whole little
workshop. Blew our minds entirely.
Our version allows us to include up to 100 people. That would be far too
many for this kind of use. My guess is that a group of 15 - 20 would be
pretty large, but not impossible. Because the software includes a
whiteboard. Ideas can be written on ?cards? and moved around on the board.
Because of the size of the whiteboard, I?d guess that it can easily handle
40 some ideas ? not many more. It has built in VIOP; so no need for a
separate phone connection.
Participants need a high speed connection and a way to handle sound - like
the $10 headphones with a mic you?d use for a Skype call.
We could host a workshop and work with someone to facilitate it. We need
the practice and it would be cool to share this application with you. We?ve
been dreamining of an online ToP workshop since the 80?s; so this is a
little like finding the lost chord.
It works best when there is one person who is the facilitator and another
who handles the technology ? flicking switches behind the curtain like the
wizard of Oz - - - without the hokusy-pokusy stuff. Since it?s your idea,
you?d need to decide who would be the facilitator. We?ll work with that
person to make the session happen.
A workshop like this would really requires at least 2 sessions.
In the first session the participants get connected and familiar with the
technology. That part takes about 45 minutes to an hour. It?s necessary. If
it?s not done in a separate session, it will take up the first 40 ? 60
minutes of the initial meeting. It?s a natural, necessary part of this kind
of online collaboration. If you?re going to be a part of the workshop, you
have to do the orientation. That?s it.
This session could include the contexting, instructions and the initial
brainstorm. My guess is that part would take another hour. That could be
done in another way as well. We have a tool we could use to collect ideas
that can take place asynchronously.
In the second session the group can do the gestalting, naming and reflection
conversation. That?s probably an hour and a half or 2 hours.
Let me know if you?d like to pursue this.
\\/
"James Wiegel" wrote:
> So, what would the workshop question be, Jean?
>
> "What are our underlying assumptions and beliefs related to xxxx?" or,
> "What are the underlying assumptions and beliefs we see in people related
to
> this topic?" or,
> "What are the underlying assumptions and beliefs we suspect are present
that
> make this topic so controversial?"
>
> Do you get diametrically opposed ones? do you organize them by topic (all
> these are assumptions about the role of government) or by similar
assumption
> or belief?
>
> What is next? What do you do with the product?
>
> I have a survey monkey account and would be happy to put up something if
> people wanted to contribute and once I get back home (after the 24th)
would
> help with organizing, etc.
>
> Jim
>
> Coincidence is the spiritual equivalent of a pun. G. K. Chesterton
>
> Jim Wiegel
> 401 North Beverly Way, Tolleson, Arizona 85353-2401
> +1 623-936-8671 +1 623-363-3277
> jfwiegel at yahoo.com www.partnersinparticipation.com
>
> --- On Sun, 9/6/09, Jean Watts <jeanwatts at cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> From: Jean Watts <jeanwatts at cox.net>
>> Subject: [Oe List ...] Health Care - ENGAGEMENT
>> To: oe at wedgeblade.net
>> Date: Sunday, September 6, 2009, 9:51 AM
>>
>> I found when facilitating groups focused on "health care" or "healthy
>> communities" that it was necessary to begin with a workshop that
uncovered
>> the group's underlying assumptions and beliefs rather than their
practical
>> vision. It appeared that it was at this level where the "real" conflict
of
>> perspective on the particular subject or content being discussed was
rooted.
>>
>>
>> JWM use to say frequently that "We are always in the process of acting
out
>> our self understanding." Our "self understanding" is, in reality, these
>> underlying assumptions, beliefs, and values. One of the ways these are
>> "acted out' is in the particular way we articulate our vision and
solutions
>> to the issues within the content being discussed.
>>
>> These underlying beliefs, assumptions, and values are always in a state
of
>> movement or evolution. So, by beginning at this point, it enabled the
group
>> to begin with the present moment or situation rather than focusing on the
>> past stuff that has brought them to this present situation.
>>
>> So, I think that this is where we as a group of caring individuals might
>> focus our discussion prior to answering the vision question.
>>
>> Namaste,
>> Jean
>>
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>> Thanks, David.
>>
>> I believe this can be facilitated over the listserve, though the
gestalting
>> might be less participative than usual. Is there someone(s) who would be
>> willing to take on this task? I'm up to here right now, but would be
happy
>> to play a second role. Seems to me the job will be:
>> 1. solicit responses to the question of vision: What would a
>> desirable health care system look like? What are components of the
desired
>> system?
>> 2. Group the ideas into columns according to similarity.
>> 3. Post the columns on the listserve, and invite the group to
>> provide 3-4-word names (We want to see _____)
>> 4. Invite a discussion of the names (perhaps for a week) and
then
>> settle on the ones with greatest consensus.
>>
>> Move on to the contradictions and follow the same process; then to the
>> strategy.
>>
>> The ToP network has a task force working on ways to facilitate virtual
>> meetings, and there are multiple software and web-based programmes that
can
>> be used. Unfortunately most charge a fee and are complicated to learn, so
>> while we probably can't use them here, maybe someone from that group
would
>> like to play a role in this on the listserve.
>>
>> While this may be a tedious process for us, it may just possibly generate
>> some innovative ideas that are not yet in the national discussion. Who
>> knows?
>>
>> John
>>
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