[Oe List ...] a new religious mode

James Wiegel jfwiegel at yahoo.com
Thu Sep 17 15:19:22 CDT 2009


Not sure if this answers your question, Jean, 

I find myself, as I work with this core group re:  the Israeli - Palestinian conflict and methods to use . . .
When the conversation gets deep and heats up and people are getting ready to walk out of the room, songs come up in my head . . .

Psalm 13
The Prayer Song ("When I see my life ever is torn . . ")  I recalled all 16 verses during the session
The Chastity Song
That poem by Hammerskjold:  "Tired and lonely . . ."

Jim



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--- On Thu, 9/17/09, Jean Watts <jeanwatts at cox.net> wrote:

From: Jean Watts <jeanwatts at cox.net>
Subject: [Oe List ...] a new religious mode
To: oe at wedgeblade.net
Date: Thursday, September 17, 2009, 12:05 PM



Jack Gillis wrote: 
"Why aren't we remembering our own deep and profound insight that there will
be no New Social Vehicle without a New Religious Mode?"

Been thinking the same thing.... and another colleague just sent me these
quotes today:

"If you want to build a ship, don't drum up people together to collect wood
and don't assign them tasks and work, but rather teach them to long for the
endless immensity of the sea."   
- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry

"Remember, we are all affecting the world every moment, whether we mean to
or not. Our actions and states of mind matter, because we are so deeply
interconnected with one another.  Working on our own consciousness is the
most important thing that we are doing at any moment, and being love is a
supreme creative act."
- Ram Dass

I wonder, just what is the 'New Religious Mode' today? And where do we see
it emerging in ourselves or others?
Jean

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Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 15:22:15 -0500
From: Jack Gilles <icabombay at igc.org>
Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] An excellent article on Health Care costs
To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at wedgeblade.net>
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Herman,

This article is fantastic!  It's if for the first time the  
contradiction is named (for me) and we can see what needs to really  
happen.  No longer am I distraught over the loss of the "public  
option".   It is not addressing the contradiction.  What it does  
clarify for me is something that I have brooding about throughout all  
these emails zinging back and forth.  Why aren't we remembering our  
own deep and profound insight that there will be no New Social Vehicle  
without a New Religious Mode?  I find this article not only says that,  
but points out what areas we need to work in to make it happen.  And  
his words that as of now, that possibility is becoming less not more  
prevalent is sobering.  I personally feel that this thinking and  
action is what we need to focus on, not just our method for coming up  
with an analysis and plan (ToPs Methods).  Anyway, thanks for bringing  
this to our attention and I hope everyone will read it.

Grace & Peace,

Jack


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