[Oe List ...] A Secular Age

[frank bremner]

Well said, John.

 

What is of interest to me, in my work on Taylor's book, is finding expressions of what we (O:E/EI/ICA) have been and are on about - in other words and other frameworks of meaning.  I'm certainly finding it with some of my fellow BTh students, usually the older ones (older than 30) thinking beyond old ecclesiological models.

 

Thanks for the comment.

 

BTW, we've started working on our (now) eight ToP modules to convert the whole set into a Graduate Diploma in Facilitative Leadership, and setting up a Registered Training Organisation to deliver it.  More news anon.  Elaine Richmond and I are working on polishing up Module 6, which now becomes Module 7.

 

Cheers

 

Frank
 


From: jpc2025 at triad.rr.com
To: oe at wedgeblade.net
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 08:27:29 -0400
Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] A Secular Age





Thanks, Frank, for setting me up.
 
Yes, I got the suggestion from colleague Bob Fishel to check _A Secular Age_ out of library and at least scan it, which I did late 2008. 3 daily reflections on Taylor and book: http://rejourney.blogspot.com/search?q=charles+taylor.
 
We were extremely lucky duckies to at least get it articulated to ourselves and others, over and over, that meaning is everywhere, in everything; all is transparent to meaning; the kingdom is eternally at hand; heaven on earth, even in the midst of hell; other world in this world ... all is good; RS-I; sanctification, etc., etc., etc. 
 
One of our greatest gifts: we were gung ho about the story. We loved to tell the story. And the story has stuck with us and sustained us mightily. 
 
And this is what we've been writing and blogging and sharing (of late, in the Profound Journey Dialog): spirit is at the heart of everything and every situation; all is full of meaning. Be aware. Here and now, boys. Something like that. 
 
Profound secularity, as Taylor might say.
 
Let us rehearse the story -- the fundamental fact of our existence -- everywhichway everyday, and give thanks.
 
Selah.
 


From: oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net [mailto:oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of frank bremner
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 11:33 PM
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Subject: [Oe List ...] A Secular Age


Dea colleagues

I've started auditing a post-graduate subject called "Readings in Systematic Theology", called "A Secular Age" based on a book of that name (about 400 pages!) by US priest Charles Taylor.  It will be a very exhaustive examination of the subject, digging very deep and wide, and going back to medieval times.  13 sessions x 2 hrs.  Very, very comprehensive 300+ pages.  Worth borrowing from a library at first as it's about $75.
 
My bias. which I'll be testing out, is that "the sacred is just an intensification of what we now call everyday life, the secular".  I think the separation of the two notions, which is not very Hebrew but is more Hellenistic, has to do with the development of religious institutions over the centuries.  (In my thinking, I'm using it as a deep, deep, look at the EI>ICA transition.)

Has anybody on our listserv read it?
 
Cheers
 
Frank Bremner
 
  



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