[Oe List ...] Kong Hong (yeah, you read that right!)

W. J. synergi at yahoo.com
Sun Aug 22 18:48:35 CDT 2010


Carlos, you guys were such brilliant pedagogues and all, yet none of us could 
'see' the obvious, staring us in the face, 'cause we were running on too little 
sleep and were primed to 'see' what our brains wanted us to see.
Makes me wonder what other blindness to the obvious we developed over the years 
of running flat out at top speed as a group. 
Marshall




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From: Carlos R. Zervigon <carlos at zervigon.com>
To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at wedgeblade.net>
Sent: Sun, August 22, 2010 4:34:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Kong Hong (yeah, you read that right!)

 
Marshall
 
Don and I were in the print building set it all up and ran it. We share the 
blame. JWM made the call. We actually were already staking them by ZIP or 
whatever we did over a bunch of tables when it was discovered. I was there but 
cannot remember who noticed it first. I felt like I was sinking all the way 
through the basement.
 
Carlos R. Zervigon, PMP
Zervigon International, Ltd.
817 Antonine St.
New Orleans, LA  70115  USA
504 894-9868 Mobile: 504 908-0762
carlos at zervigon.com
http://www.zervigon.com
 
From:oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net [mailto:oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of 
W. J.
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 4:57 PM
To: Order Ecumenical Community
Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Kong Hong (yeah, you read that right!)
 
I confess that after way too many bleary-eyed late nights grinding out 
camera-ready copy for the print shop (on 5th Avenue), I totally failed to catch 
my own typographical error in the title design for an article in an issue of the 
E.I. newsletter we called "i.e." Remember it? I'm sure it's in the global 
archives.
Well anyway, the article was probably about the Hong Kong Religious House, where 
Bob and Cynthia Vance were holding forth, blah blah blah (and perhaps in our 
imaginations trying to stem the tide of, or prepare for the inevitability of, 
the communist takeover scheduled for 1997). Whatever.
Anyway, I wound up setting the title (in large type) like this:   KONG
                                                                                                         
 
          HONG
It was correctly hand set in LettraSet black adhesive letters, then cut into two 
lines of type and pasted into place--WRONG!
"Kong Hong" is wrong, heh, heh! One of those times where your bleary eyes don't 
catch the error @ 3 am, 'cause it looks ALMOST right, and if you think you're 
reading "Hong Kong" you might not even notice!
So, without further sets of eyeballs on the 'finished' product, it was RUSHED 
(as usual) to the camera (withstanding scrutiny of another set of bleary 
eyeballs), and then the negative was 'stripped' into place (by another set of 
bleary eyeballs) on a large sheet of canary colored paper with a grid pattern 
printed on it for alignment. This was (theoretically) used to make a paper proof 
copy (like a blueprint) by another set of bleary eyeballs, 
and, (theoretically) after editorial approval, was used to 'burn' a chemically 
sensitive aluminum plate (by another set of bleary eyeballs) which then went on 
the press to produce a "press proof" (checked by yet another set of bleary 
eyeballs) before somebody pushed the button that printed ten thousand copies or 
whatever.
It was only at THAT point that somebody--God only knows who--looked at the ten 
thousand copies with non-bleary eyeballs and yelled (over the press noise) like 
the Voice of God, "KONG HONG??? WTF?"
So we stopped the press (literally) and actually had an emergency discussion of 
whether to just let it go out like that. Or not. And even maybe whether we could 
pretend it was intended to read like that! I mean, we weren't particularly 
green-conscious at that point, and no doubt were using TONS of expensive paper 
in the print shop. But we were acutely aware of the 'long green', though not 
influenced by Herman Greene.
The outcome was that we corrected the error on film, re-burned the plate, and 
reprinted the entire run of "i.e.". And I got to literally hang my head as the 
hot-shot proofreading genius who was known to catch every error. In time. (Back 
when I was actually PAID and got a lot more sleep, I was a good proofreader!) 
Hopefully I eventually got to catch up on sleep, along with those who kept the 
print shop running around the clock, like all night, until they stopped for the 
Daily Office @ 5 am.
So here I am, about to turn 70, and I STILL haven't lived that one down, as 
Carlos so kindly reminds me!
That's my version of the story and I'm stickin' to it!
 
Marshall
 

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From:James Wiegel <jfwiegel at yahoo.com>
To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at wedgeblade.net>
Sent: Sun, August 22, 2010 4:32:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Salmon: Looking for Tune name of "Come March 
Along"...
Oooh, a story.  Tell the story.  Is this the   print shop in the basement of 
Faculty East, or the one over past the program   center??

What happened??

Jim

The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change;   the 
realist adjusts the sails. William Arthur Ward.

Jim Wiegel
401 North Beverly Way, Tolleson, Arizona 85353-2401
+1 623-936-8671 +1 623-363-3277
jfwiegel at yahoo.com www.partnersinparticipation.com

--- On Sat, 8/21/10, W. J. <synergi at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: W. J. <synergi at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Salmon: Looking for Tune name of "Come March   
Along"...
To: "Order Ecumenical Community" <oe at wedgeblade.net>
Date: Saturday, August 21, 2010, 7:38 PM
Yep.   Among the living, only you and I, Carlos, and maybe Don Cramer, would 
probably   remember 'Kong Hong.' One of my worst nightmares in the print shop.
Marshall
 

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From:Carlos R.   Zervigon <carlos at zervigon.com>
To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at wedgeblade.net>
Sent: Sat, August 21, 2010 9:06:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Salmon: Looking for Tune name of "Come   March 
Along"...
That   is what I thought I had typed. Kong Hong all over again.
 
Carlos R.   Zervigon, PMP
Zervigon   International, Ltd.
817 Antonine St.
New Orleans,   LA  70115  USA
504 894-9868   Mobile: 504 908-0762
carlos at zervigon.com
http://www.zervigon.com
 
From:oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net   [mailto:oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of 
W. J.
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 6:33 PM
To: Order Ecumenical Community
Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Salmon: Looking for Tune name of "Come   March 
Along"...
 
I think that   was 'constantly conscious' ...
from an ol'   editorial eye!
Marshall
 

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From:Carlos R. Zervigon <carlos at zervigon.com>
To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at wedgeblade.net>
Sent: Fri, August 20, 2010 3:11:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Salmon: Looking for Tune name of "Come   March 
Along"...
Constantly   constant of dreadful awareness I plumb the abyss evermore etc.
 
Carlos R.   Zervigon, PMP
Zervigon   International, Ltd.
817 Antonine St.
New Orleans,   LA  70115  USA
504 894-9868   Mobile: 504 908-0762
carlos at zervigon.com
http://www.zervigon.com
 
From:oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net [mailto:oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of 
Bill Schlesinger
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 4:18 PM
To: 'Order Ecumenical Community'
Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Salmon: Looking for Tune name of "Come   March 
Along"...
 
What   did we sing to ‘Stout Hearted Men?’
 
Bill   Schlesinger
Project   Vida
3607   Rivera Avenue
El   Paso, TX 79905
(915)   533-7057 x 207
(915)   533-7158 FAX
pvida at whc.net
www.projectvidaelpaso.org

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From:oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net   [mailto:oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of 
William Salmon
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 3:08 PM
To: Order Ecumenical Community
Subject: [Oe List ...] Salmon: Looking for Tune name of "Come   March Along"...
 
Come March   Along and "Stout Hearted Men" are two different songs. Do you want   
both? I can provide the tune and maybe the chords.
      Pastor Bill 
 
----- Original   Message ----- 
>From:Bill   Schlesinger 
>To:'Order Ecumenical Community' 
>Sent:Friday, August 20, 2010 12:01 PM
>Subject:Re: [Oe List ...] Looking for Tune name of   "Come March Along" ...
> 
>Stout   Hearted Men in my whistling memory.
> 
>Bill   Schlesinger
>Project   Vida
>3607   Rivera Avenue
>El   Paso, TX 79905
>(915)   533-7057 x 207
>(915)   533-7158 FAX
>pvida at whc.net
>www.projectvidaelpaso.org
>
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>From:oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net   [mailto:oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of 
>Carlos R. Zervigon
>Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 10:53 AM
>To: 'Order Ecumenical Community'
>Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Looking for Tune name of "Come March   Along" ...
> 
>I   have a number of old song books. If I find it my head will probably 
>remember.
> 
>Carlos R.   Zervigon, PMP
>Zervigon   International, Ltd.
>817 Antonine St.
>New Orleans,   LA  70115  USA
>504 894-9868   Mobile: 504 908-0762
>carlos at zervigon.com
>http://www.zervigon.com
> 
>From:oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net   [mailto:oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of 
>John Cock
>Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 11:35 AM
>To: 'Order Ecumenical Community'
>Subject: [Oe List ...] Looking for Tune name of "Come March   Along" ...
> 
>which ends: 
>…Come march along and we'll sing a new song     
>        Come salute the Way of the   dawning day  
>        And death shall have no   dominion here. 
>Thanks, 
>John 
>
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