[Oe List ...] Kong Hong (yeah, you read that right!)

Tue Aug 24 06:41:43 CDT 2010

Bloopers - This is not the printed kind but I remember when Charles Moore
was in a hurry for an appointment and didn't have a car so we, David and I,
lent him our Vega! Well, Charles pulled it away from the curb at Westside
and it sputtered to a stop - it was out of gas! Great help we were. Ann
Stewart Shafer

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From: oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net [mailto:oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net] On Behalf
Of Lynda Cock
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 5:30 PM
To: 'Order Ecumenical Community'
Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Kong Hong (yeah, you read that right!)

I wonder if any of those wrong copies could be as valuable as some of the
stamps that were printed incorrectly.  However, it sounds like the erroneous
copies never made it into circulation.  Rejoicing in the wonders that were
wrought, warts and all.   Lynda Cock

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From: oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net [mailto:oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net] On Behalf
Of Carlos R. Zervigon
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 7:35 PM
To: 'Order Ecumenical Community'
Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Kong Hong (yeah, you read that right!)

Marshall

Don and I were in the print building set it all up and ran it. We share the
blame. JWM made the call. We actually were already staking them by ZIP or
whatever we did over a bunch of tables when it was discovered. I was there
but cannot remember who noticed it first. I felt like I was sinking all the
way through the basement.

Carlos R. Zervigon, PMP

Zervigon International, Ltd.

817 Antonine St.

New Orleans, LA  70115  USA

504 894-9868 Mobile: 504 908-0762

carlos at zervigon.com

http://www.zervigon.com

From: oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net [mailto:oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net] On Behalf
Of W. J.
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 4:57 PM
To: Order Ecumenical Community
Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Kong Hong (yeah, you read that right!)

I confess that after way too many bleary-eyed late nights grinding out
camera-ready copy for the print shop (on 5th Avenue), I totally failed to
catch my own typographical error in the title design for an article in an
issue of the E.I. newsletter we called "i.e." Remember it? I'm sure it's in
the global archives.

Well anyway, the article was probably about the Hong Kong Religious House,
where Bob and Cynthia Vance were holding forth, blah blah blah (and perhaps
in our imaginations trying to stem the tide of, or prepare for the
inevitability of, the communist takeover scheduled for 1997). Whatever.

Anyway, I wound up setting the title (in large type) like this:   KONG

          HONG

It was correctly hand set in LettraSet black adhesive letters, then cut into
two lines of type and pasted into place--WRONG!

"Kong Hong" is wrong, heh, heh! One of those times where your bleary eyes
don't catch the error @ 3 am, 'cause it looks ALMOST right, and if you think
you're reading "Hong Kong" you might not even notice!

So, without further sets of eyeballs on the 'finished' product, it was
RUSHED (as usual) to the camera (withstanding scrutiny of another set of
bleary eyeballs), and then the negative was 'stripped' into place (by
another set of bleary eyeballs) on a large sheet of canary colored paper
with a grid pattern printed on it for alignment. This was (theoretically)
used to make a paper proof copy (like a blueprint) by another set of bleary
eyeballs, and, (theoretically) after editorial approval, was used to 'burn'
a chemically sensitive aluminum plate (by another set of bleary eyeballs)
which then went on the press to produce a "press proof" (checked by yet
another set of bleary eyeballs) before somebody pushed the button that
printed ten thousand copies or whatever.

It was only at THAT point that somebody--God only knows who--looked at the
ten thousand copies with non-bleary eyeballs and yelled (over the press
noise) like the Voice of God, "KONG HONG??? WTF?"

So we stopped the press (literally) and actually had an emergency discussion
of whether to just let it go out like that. Or not. And even maybe whether
we could pretend it was intended to read like that! I mean, we weren't
particularly green-conscious at that point, and no doubt were using TONS of
expensive paper in the print shop. But we were acutely aware of the 'long
green', though not influenced by Herman Greene.

The outcome was that we corrected the error on film, re-burned the plate,
and reprinted the entire run of "i.e.". And I got to literally hang my head
as the hot-shot proofreading genius who was known to catch every error. In
time. (Back when I was actually PAID and got a lot more sleep, I was a good
proofreader!) 

Hopefully I eventually got to catch up on sleep, along with those who kept
the print shop running around the clock, like all night, until they stopped
for the Daily Office @ 5 am.

So here I am, about to turn 70, and I STILL haven't lived that one down, as
Carlos so kindly reminds me!

That's my version of the story and I'm stickin' to it!

Marshall

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From: James Wiegel <jfwiegel at yahoo.com>
To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at wedgeblade.net>
Sent: Sun, August 22, 2010 4:32:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Salmon: Looking for Tune name of "Come March
Along"...

Oooh, a story.  Tell the story.  Is this the print shop in the basement of
Faculty East, or the one over past the program center??

What happened??

Jim

The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change;
the realist adjusts the sails. William Arthur Ward.

Jim Wiegel
401 North Beverly Way, Tolleson, Arizona 85353-2401
+1 623-936-8671 +1 623-363-3277
jfwiegel at yahoo.com www.partnersinparticipation.com

--- On Sat, 8/21/10, W. J. <synergi at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: W. J. <synergi at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Salmon: Looking for Tune name of "Come March
Along"...
To: "Order Ecumenical Community" <oe at wedgeblade.net>
Date: Saturday, August 21, 2010, 7:38 PM

Yep. Among the living, only you and I, Carlos, and maybe Don Cramer, would
probably remember 'Kong Hong.' One of my worst nightmares in the print shop.

Marshall

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From: Carlos R. Zervigon <carlos at zervigon.com>
To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at wedgeblade.net>
Sent: Sat, August 21, 2010 9:06:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Salmon: Looking for Tune name of "Come March
Along"...

That is what I thought I had typed. Kong Hong all over again.

Carlos R. Zervigon, PMP

Zervigon International, Ltd.

817 Antonine St.

New Orleans, LA  70115  USA

504 894-9868 Mobile: 504 908-0762

carlos at zervigon.com

http://www.zervigon.com

From: oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net [mailto:oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net] On Behalf
Of W. J.
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 6:33 PM
To: Order Ecumenical Community
Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Salmon: Looking for Tune name of "Come March
Along"...

I think that was 'constantly conscious' ...

from an ol' editorial eye!

Marshall

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From: Carlos R. Zervigon <carlos at zervigon.com>
To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at wedgeblade.net>
Sent: Fri, August 20, 2010 3:11:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Salmon: Looking for Tune name of "Come March
Along"...

Constantly constant of dreadful awareness I plumb the abyss evermore etc.

Carlos R. Zervigon, PMP

Zervigon International, Ltd.

817 Antonine St.

New Orleans, LA  70115  USA

504 894-9868 Mobile: 504 908-0762

carlos at zervigon.com

http://www.zervigon.com

From: oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net [mailto:oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net] On Behalf
Of Bill Schlesinger
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 4:18 PM
To: 'Order Ecumenical Community'
Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Salmon: Looking for Tune name of "Come March
Along"...

What did we sing to 'Stout Hearted Men?'

Bill Schlesinger

Project Vida

3607 Rivera Avenue

El Paso, TX 79905

(915) 533-7057 x 207

(915) 533-7158 FAX

pvida at whc.net

www.projectvidaelpaso.org

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From: oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net [mailto:oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net] On Behalf
Of William Salmon
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 3:08 PM
To: Order Ecumenical Community
Subject: [Oe List ...] Salmon: Looking for Tune name of "Come March
Along"...

Come March Along and "Stout Hearted Men" are two different songs. Do you
want both? I can provide the tune and maybe the chords.

    Pastor Bill 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Bill Schlesinger 

To: 'Order Ecumenical Community' 

Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 12:01 PM

Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Looking for Tune name of "Come March Along" ...

Stout Hearted Men in my whistling memory.

Bill Schlesinger

Project Vida

3607 Rivera Avenue

El Paso, TX 79905

(915) 533-7057 x 207

(915) 533-7158 FAX

pvida at whc.net

www.projectvidaelpaso.org

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From: oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net [mailto:oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net] On Behalf
Of Carlos R. Zervigon
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 10:53 AM
To: 'Order Ecumenical Community'
Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Looking for Tune name of "Come March Along" ...

I have a number of old song books. If I find it my head will probably
remember.

Carlos R. Zervigon, PMP

Zervigon International, Ltd.

817 Antonine St.

New Orleans, LA  70115  USA

504 894-9868 Mobile: 504 908-0762

carlos at zervigon.com

http://www.zervigon.com

From: oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net [mailto:oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net] On Behalf
Of John Cock
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 11:35 AM
To: 'Order Ecumenical Community'
Subject: [Oe List ...] Looking for Tune name of "Come March Along" ...

which ends: 

.Come march along and we'll sing a new song     
        Come salute the Way of the dawning day  
        And death shall have no dominion here. 

Thanks, 

John 

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