[Oe List ...] NY Times editorial - AWE

Wed Dec 8 15:59:51 CST 2010

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--- On Wed, 12/8/10, Herman Greene <hfgreene at mindspring.com> wrote:

From: Herman Greene <hfgreene at mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] NY Times editorial - AWE
To: "'Order Ecumenical Community'" <oe at wedgeblade.net>
Date: Wednesday, December 8, 2010, 2:53 PM

I have written an essay about this. If
anyone would care to receive it, let me know. I also have a paper by a
physicist that describes alternatives to the Big Bang and how no theory fits
all the data. I can send that to anyone who requests a copy as well. 

Herman 

From:
oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net [mailto:oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of Jack Gilles

Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010
12:26 PM

To: Order
 Ecumenical Community

Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] NY
Times editorial - AWE 

Dear Laurel, 

Just to share with you and others that there are other alternative
understandings.  There are many scientists who do not "buy" into
the Big Bang theory at all.  There is a highly respected group who have
talked that we live in a "steady state" universe with continuous
creation and destruction of galaxies.  The "red shift" that is
one of the "proofs" cited for the Big Bang theory can be explained in
other ways that do not have the distant galaxies receding at ever increasing
speeds.  I know that this is counter to the CW, but I, for one, am a
follower of the steady state universe.  This is a very complex and highly
scientific argument, but just to let you know that there are other explanations
that do not require exotic solutions.   For those who might be interested
in this other view they can contact me, but I don't think this is the forum for
exploring theories, but I do appreciate your reflection on the awesome mystery
we are a part of. 

Jack 

On Dec 8, 2010, at 11:46 AM, LAURELCG at aol.com
wrote: 

Editorial 

Before
the Boom 

Published: November 30, 2010 

New York Times  

Astronomers and astrophysicists have given us
insight into what happened in the first trillionths-of-a-second after the Big
Bang, nearly 14 billion years ago. But the current cosmological hypothesis is
that before the Big Bang there was nothing.  

Now Roger Penrose, the eminent British
mathematician, is arguing that there is physical evidence that may predate the
Big Bang. In a recent paper, he and his co-author, the physicist V. G.
Gurzadyan, describe a pattern of concentric circles detected against the universal
backdrop of cosmic microwave radiation generated by the Big Bang. These
circles, they say, may be gravitational waves generated by collisions of
superbig black holes before the Big Bang.  

The two scientists go even further, claiming
that the evidence also suggests that our universe may “be but one aeon in a
(perhaps unending) succession of such aeons.” What we think of as our
“universe” may simply be one link in a chain of universes, each beginning with
a big bang and ending in a way that sends detectable gravitational waves into
the next universe.  

The argument is highly controversial. But if the
circles the two scientists have detected stand up to further examination — if
they’re not the result of noise or instrumental error — it could radically change
the way we think about our universe. And the notion is no more radical than
that of some cosmologists who argue that our universe is only one in a
multiverse — a possibly infinite number of co-existing, but undetectable,
universes.  

The question is: What do we do with these
possibilities? Our answer is to marvel at them and be reminded, once again,
that we live in a universe — however we define it — that contains more wonders
than we can begin to imagine.  

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