[Oe List ...] Salmon RUSHING IN WHERE. . .

[William Salmon]

Colleagues, 
    I find the conversation about who owns the "rights" to use our inventions interesting. There was a time when we affirmed that, "All the People, All the Goods, and All the Proprietary Rights BELONGED TO ALL THE PEOPLE." 
    Strange, isn't it? Now, we're concerned about defining the new moment in history, but are we using old definitions that could have killed us in the first place? Is there something about having a joyful conception, a wonderful gestation period, and then a difficult, extra-long, and troubled birth process that makes us want to own the baby? Whose baby is it, really? 
    Many years ago I published an article in a UM publication titled, "Steal My Stuff, Please!." Since that time, I'll admit that I've struggled over my rights as an author and publisher of a workbook, and the development of the IHOP Bible Study, The IHOP Bible Study Commentary, and nearly 450 sermon outlines using Gut-Trip Analysis commentary for SermonStarter. 
    I think I'll leave it where I still want people to steal it and use it. There is a lot of wonderful, creative, unique, profound insights to be garnered by those who are awakened to the significance of what is the result of an Order education. 
    Wad U think? 
    Bill Salmon

----- Original Message ----- 
From: R Williams 
To: Order Ecumenical Community 
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 8:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] IP rights to Social Process Triangles


      Charles,

      I agree with everything you say.  However, it may be that the ICA needs to assure that someone other than the ICA does not claim proprietary rights to the material and then try to restrict the right of all of us to use it.  ICA's intent then would be to protect if for our use rather than to prohibit if from being used by others.

      Randy

      --- On Tue, 2/23/10, Charles or Doris Hahn <cdhahn at flash.net> wrote:


        From: Charles or Doris Hahn <cdhahn at flash.net>
        Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] IP rights to Social Process Triangles
        To: "Order Ecumenical Community" <oe at wedgeblade.net>
        Date: Tuesday, February 23, 2010, 9:08 PM


        I find this chatter really interesting.  When we were working on all those projects, we just assumed that the products, i.e. the Social Process Triangles, the New Religious Mode, etc. belonged to the world.  How many papers or chapters of books did we use in our courses without secureing permission, and giving only the authors name.  It seems to me that we should be generous enough to ask only that the The Institute of Cultural Affairs be mentioned or credited.  I cannot believe that we would stick to the letter of the law on getting permission and giving total copyright documentation.  The stuff is yours and mine, and it belongs to humankind.
        Charles Hahn

         



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        From: Wilson Priscilla <Pris at TeamTechPress.com>
        To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at wedgeblade.net>
        Sent: Tue, February 23, 2010 5:06:26 PM
        Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] IP rights to Social Process Triangles

        I used the triangles in The Facilitative Way...giving credit to the international research of the Institute of Cultural Affairs. Jenkins have a whole book on the triangles titled The Social Process Triangles. We checked with Lyn Edwards before printing The Facilitative Way and she gave her "permission." 
        So many people worked on creating those...they have to be "corporate" property. 


        When we worked on The Facilitative Way we changed some titles, but kept the dynamics the same. We've been told that our chapter on the triangles is very helpful. We listened to clients when working on titles.
        Priscilla Wilson


        On Feb 23, 2010, at 3:51 PM, Herman Greene wrote:


          Is their any problem in using the social process triangles? Is anyone claiming a copyright to the triangles?

          Thanks,

          Herman

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