[Oe List ...] IP rights to Social Process Triangles

[James Wiegel]

So, Bill, my grand daughter sent me a link (see below) that raises the question of "Where did the movements go?"  Talk some more about that "movemental consciousness" you mentioned.  What are the descriptors?  How did it get developed in you?  How might it be developed in others today?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXL998q7skI..
 Jim


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From: Bill Parker <bparker175 at cox.net>
To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at wedgeblade.net>
Sent: Fri, February 26, 2010 9:44:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] IP rights to Social Process Triangles

 
Paula makes a lot of sense when she 
says "We can not take it back." 
 
It really is not clear why this 
seems so important to so many people. What is the point of EI/ICA or OE, for 
that matter, being given credit for ....what? The Social Process 
Triangles?  Methods that we may have created or clearly took 
from other sources? I can assure you that everything we think we own, 
or claim, is folly in the hands of people without a Movemental 
Consciousness, and every one of us has seen the reality of what I am saying. 
 
Unless the person utilizing such 
"properties" has a Movemental Consciousness, or a Revolutionary Consciousness, 
or at the very least, possess a notion that what they are doing is changing the 
world on behalf of all people, the event is a silly, abstract, often boring 
exercise. The "properties" are a product of this consciousness, not the 
other way around. No, it is not the methods that create the consciousness 
but rather the Movemental Consciousness in the person utilizing the methods that 
make the methods work.
 
Further, if one using the 
"properties" has a Movemental Consciousness, then why would anyone object to 
that? They might even get more done than we have thus far.
 
What is being done by this community 
that is in anyway at risk by other people using whatever 
we "own"? Social Process Triangles?? Let me ask, what are we doing with the 
Social Process Triangles?  I understand the concern Randy Williams raised 
about somehow losing the rights to our own creation. However, I am not convince 
we could give these "properties" away, even if we tried. Isn't that what we have 
been doing for 50 years? 
 
Is this really an important matter, 
and if so, isn't there another matter, or two, far more urgent for us 
to be about? .....just asking.
 
Bill Parker
----- Original Message ----- 
>From: Paula Philbrook 
>To: Order Ecumenical Community 
>Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 12:00 
>  PM
>Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] IP rights to 
>  Social Process Triangles
>
>
>ALL:
>We can not take it back.
> 
>When my sister, Deana Henry and her husband, Kenneth were working on 
>  their PHD's at Texas A&M, they encounter the Social Process Triangles in a 
>  Community Development Class. They also recognized a kindred spirit.
> 
>The professor was a visiting professor from Australia. He had never 
>  directly encountered EI/ICA.  He had gained his knowledge of the 
>  triangles from a fellow colleague working with the Aboriginal 
>  community. 
> 
>I was involved in discussions with Sidley & Austin intellectual 
>  property specialists.  Establishing copyrights and ownerships is not a 
>  straight-line.  The corporate mode, the voluntary nature of OE members, 
>  the years of use without trademarks or action, etc contribute mud 
>  to any legal discussion.  
> 
>My hope is that EI/ICA get the credit in some way-each and 
>  everytime.
> 
> 
>Paula
>
>Happiness is when what you think, what you say, and what you 
>  do are in harmony.
>   Mahatma Gandhi
>
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