[Oe List ...] The new Religious Mode Charts and the 144s
Jack Gilles
icabombay at igc.org
Tue Mar 9 21:43:13 CST 2010
Terry,
I think you're right. And maybe the first Odyssey was in 69.
Jack
On Mar 9, 2010, at 8:36 PM, Terry Bergdall wrote:
> I remember those talks as being a part of Summer 70.
>
>
> On 9 Mar 2010, at 21:31, Jack Gilles wrote:
>
>> Herman,
>>
>> The charts you are talking about are The Other World Charts (land,
>> river, mountain and sea). The NRM charts were the work of 1968,
>> but may have begun in 67 or even earlier. They were the foundation
>> to the Odyssey, the first of which was held in the South side RH in
>> Chicago. I was in that first event, taught by Fishel and Hess
>> among others. We didn't make and NSV charts, but shortly
>> thereafter we created the Social Process triangles. I have several
>> papers of talks by JWM on the relationship between the NRM and NSV,
>> but for me, the insight that has struck me is that the NSV is the
>> NRM and vice versa. They are two sides of the same coin, and it is
>> a matter of transparency from one to the other. I think the NRM
>> 144's is perhaps the best work we ever did and the talks of Summer
>> 68 in the Great Hall (JWM did three of them, Meditation, Poverty
>> and Transparent Being) were awesome. George West did
>> Contemplation, Gene Marshall did Chastity and Fred Buss did
>> Prayer. Fred Hess did I believe Transparent Doing but I don't
>> remember who did Obedience and Transparent Knowing.
>>
>> Jack
>>
>>
>> On Mar 9, 2010, at 8:13 PM, Herman Greene wrote:
>>
>>> I have a question as well and am amazed that I had mistaken the
>>> NRM for the charts concerning the Mountain of Care, River
>>> ofConsciousness, etc. What did we call the Mountain of Care, etc.
>>> charts and are they available? Are they on the Golden Pathways CD,
>>> which I have?
>>>
>>> I am also with Frank in asking when did the NRM charts arise?
>>>
>>> Further I do remember that NRM was in tandem with the New Social
>>> Vehicle. Where are the NSV charts?
>>>
>>> Herman
>>>
>>> From: oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net [mailto:oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net]
>>> On Behalf Of frank bremner
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 9:38 PM
>>> To: Dialogue OE
>>> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] The new Religious Mode Charts and the
>>> 144s
>>>
>>> G'day folks!
>>>
>>> I have copies of the NRM charts and (somewhere in storage) some
>>> printed notes about the 144s. But I never found out just what the
>>> 144s were about. I see that 16 boxes for each NRM chart x 9
>>> charts = 144 boxes. Were the 144s the precursors to the NM
>>> charts? And when did they arise?
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Frank Bremner
>>>
>>> From: 2tjmorrison at gmail.com
>>> To: oe at wedgeblade.net
>>> Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 21:00:59 -0500
>>> Subject: [Oe List ...] The new Religious Mode Charts.
>>>
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> It is my pleasure to e mail everyone a copy of the NRM charts. I
>>> think they are among the best products put together by the 1970s
>>> Movement.
>>>
>>> The charts are 3.71 MB . . . .
>>>
>>> Tom Morrison
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: M. George Walters
>>> To: 'Order Ecumenical Community'
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 8:08 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Salmon: 144's charts
>>>
>>> If we can get a collection of the PDF’s we can put together in a
>>> booklet under Resurgence Publishing that can be a download for
>>> anyone from our website.
>>>
>>> If I had a set of the documents, I can scan to PDF and then return
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>>>
>>> From: oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net [mailto:oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net]
>>> On Behalf Of Tracy E. Longacre
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 00:41
>>> To: 'Order Ecumenical Community'
>>> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Salmon: 144's charts
>>>
>>> Tom or Bill,
>>>
>>> Can you send me the PDFs of the NRM charts?
>>>
>>> Tracy E. Longacre
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>>>
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>>> we, just unity. -Trevor Hall
>>>
>>> From: oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net [mailto:oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net]
>>> On Behalf Of William Salmon
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 9 March 2010 4:58 AM
>>> To: Thomas Morrison
>>> Cc: Ecumenical Order
>>> Subject: [Oe List ...] Salmon: 144's charts
>>>
>>> Tom --
>>> Well, well! Just as I got all of the charts together and ready
>>> to mail off to Mary Hopkins, thanks to Ann Jaeks for her labors in
>>> getting them faxed to me in color. Tom, the charts are beautiful.
>>> Thanks so much.
>>> Bill Salmon
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Thomas Morrison
>>> To: kartes at aol.com ; walters at alaweb.com ; William Salmon ; Shelley
>>> Hahn ; Bill Parker
>>> Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 7:47 PM
>>> Subject: Re: charts
>>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> I've attached the nine NRM charts as a pdf. Blessed be Paul at
>>> Office Depot who always knows what to do for the jobs I bring in.
>>> The Meditation-Contemplation-Prayer (MCP) charts are delightfully
>>> probing, pushy in church retreats. In addition, for 40 years I've
>>> used the MCP charts in an EI-created breviary. Each box in
>>> Meditation, for example, has some prose attached to it. I got it
>>> sometime around 1970. Don't know who put together the breviary,
>>> but I daily give thanks for the workshop, (task force, PSU,
>>> whatever) that put it together.
>>>
>>> Enjoy!
>>>
>>> Tom Morrison
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