[Oe List ...] The new Religious Mode Charts and the 144s

Tue Mar 9 22:28:28 CST 2010

David,

I also have a Prayer paper by David, but it was not from the Summer,  
but the Spring of 70.  I particularly remember the illustration of  
Fred's about sitting in a booth and talking about seeing the lady in  
the next booth 'ear' grow bigger and bigger as they talked.  Now I may  
be mistaken, but that's how I remember it.  I guess we could ask Fred  
or David which of them gave it.  The lectures of S70 when printed did  
not have the names of who gave them on them.

Jack
On Mar 9, 2010, at 9:20 PM, David Walters wrote:

> I remember these from the summer of 70 and thet David Scot did the  
> Prayer lecture. i still have a copy of it.
>
> David Walters.
>
> PS  That same summer I was sitting next to David on the floor in the  
> back of Room A against the wall when he mumbled  sommething  
> disparaging about the person in the front of the room and  what he  
> was rambling on about and the person on the other side of David  
> elbowed him in the ribs and declared that he could someday find  
> himself on a deserted island and  that the person up front could be  
> his only collegue.
>
> Herman,
>
> The charts you are talking about are The Other World Charts (land,  
> river, mountain and sea).  The NRM charts were the work of 1968, but  
> may have begun in 67 or even earlier.  They were the foundation to  
> the Odyssey, the first of which was held in the South side RH in  
> Chicago.  I was in that first event, taught by Fishel and Hess among  
> others.  We didn't make and NSV charts, but shortly thereafter we  
> created the Social Process triangles.  I have several papers of  
> talks by JWM on the relationship between the NRM and NSV, but for  
> me, the insight that has struck me is that the NSV is  the NRM and  
> vice versa.  They are two sides of the same coin, and it is a matter  
> of transparency from one to the other.   I think the NRM 144's is  
> perhaps the best work we ever did and the talks of Summer 68 in the  
> Great Hall (JWM did three of them, Meditation, Poverty and  
> Transparent Being) were awesome.  George West did Contemplation,  
> Gene Marshall did Chastity and Fred Buss did Prayer.  Fred Hess did  
> I believe Transparent Doing but I don't remember who did Obedience  
> and Transparent Knowing.
>
> Jack
>
>
> On Mar 9, 2010, at 8:13 PM, Herman Greene wrote:
>
>> I have a question as well and am amazed that I had mistaken the NRM  
>> for the charts concerning the Mountain of Care, River  
>> ofConsciousness, etc. What did we call the Mountain of Care, etc.  
>> charts and are they available? Are they on the Golden Pathways CD,  
>> which I have?
>> I am also with Frank in asking when did the NRM charts arise?
>> Further I do remember that NRM was in tandem with the New Social  
>> Vehicle. Where are the NSV charts?
>> Herman
>> From: oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net [mailto:oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net]  
>> On Behalf Of frank bremner
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 9:38 PM
>> To: Dialogue OE
>> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] The new Religious Mode Charts and the 144s
>> G'day folks!
>>
>> I have copies of the NRM charts and (somewhere in storage) some  
>> printed notes about the 144s. But I never found out just what the  
>> 144s were about.  I see that 16 boxes for each NRM chart x 9 charts  
>> = 144 boxes.  Were the 144s the precursors to the NM charts?  And  
>> when did they arise?
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Frank Bremner
>>
>> From: 2tjmorrison at gmail.com
>> To: oe at wedgeblade.net
>> Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 21:00:59 -0500
>> Subject: [Oe List ...] The new Religious Mode Charts.
>>
>> Hi!
>> It is my pleasure to e mail everyone a copy of the NRM charts.  I  
>> think they are among the best products put together by the 1970s  
>> Movement.
>> The charts are 3.71 MB . . . .
>> Tom Morrison
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: M. George Walters
>> To: 'Order Ecumenical Community'
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 8:08 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Salmon: 144's charts
>> If we can get a collection of the PDF’s we can put together in a  
>> booklet under Resurgence Publishing that can be a download for  
>> anyone from our website.
>> If I had a set of the documents, I can scan to PDF and then return  
>> the documents to their owner.
>> With kindest regards.
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>> From: oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net [mailto:oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net]  
>> On Behalf Of Tracy E. Longacre
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 00:41
>> To: 'Order Ecumenical Community'
>> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Salmon: 144's charts
>> Tom or Bill,
>> Can you send me the PDFs of the NRM charts?
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>> we, just unity.          -Trevor Hall
>> From: oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net [mailto:oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net]  
>> On Behalf Of William Salmon
>> Sent: Tuesday, 9 March 2010 4:58 AM
>> To: Thomas Morrison
>> Cc: Ecumenical Order
>> Subject: [Oe List ...] Salmon: 144's charts
>> Tom --
>>     Well, well! Just as I got all of the charts together and ready  
>> to mail off to Mary Hopkins, thanks to Ann Jaeks for her labors in  
>> getting them faxed to me in color. Tom, the charts are beautiful.  
>> Thanks so much.
>>     Bill Salmon
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Thomas Morrison
>> To: kartes at aol.com ; walters at alaweb.com ; William Salmon ; Shelley  
>> Hahn ; Bill Parker
>> Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 7:47 PM
>> Subject: Re: charts
>> Hi everyone,
>> I've attached the nine NRM charts as a pdf.  Blessed be Paul at  
>> Office Depot who always knows what to do for the jobs I bring in.
>> The Meditation-Contemplation-Prayer (MCP) charts are delightfully  
>> probing, pushy in church retreats.  In addition, for 40 years I've  
>> used the MCP charts in an EI-created breviary.  Each box in  
>> Meditation, for example, has some prose attached to it.  I got it  
>> sometime around 1970.  Don't know who put together the breviary,  
>> but I daily give thanks for the workshop, (task force, PSU,  
>> whatever) that put it together.
>> Enjoy!
>> Tom Morrison
>>
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