[Oe List ...] The new Religious Mode Charts and the 144s
David & Lin Zahrt
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Wed Mar 10 10:34:46 CST 2010
The Chicago Odyssey was early in 69. Gene Marshall came back to the
Boston House and we had an Odyssey before he left in Jun 1969. We
used it again in July, without Gene, to go along with a program
called MONK FOR A MONTH. We got Maxine Manning and Jean Long to
intern in the Boston House the fall of 1969.
David
On Mar 9, 2010, at 9:43 PM, Jack Gilles wrote:
> Terry,
>
> I think you're right. And maybe the first Odyssey was in 69.
>
> Jack
> On Mar 9, 2010, at 8:36 PM, Terry Bergdall wrote:
>
>> I remember those talks as being a part of Summer 70.
>>
>>
>> On 9 Mar 2010, at 21:31, Jack Gilles wrote:
>>
>>> Herman,
>>>
>>> The charts you are talking about are The Other World Charts
>>> (land, river, mountain and sea). The NRM charts were the work of
>>> 1968, but may have begun in 67 or even earlier. They were the
>>> foundation to the Odyssey, the first of which was held in the
>>> South side RH in Chicago. I was in that first event, taught by
>>> Fishel and Hess among others. We didn't make and NSV charts, but
>>> shortly thereafter we created the Social Process triangles. I
>>> have several papers of talks by JWM on the relationship between
>>> the NRM and NSV, but for me, the insight that has struck me is
>>> that the NSV is the NRM and vice versa. They are two sides of
>>> the same coin, and it is a matter of transparency from one to the
>>> other. I think the NRM 144's is perhaps the best work we ever
>>> did and the talks of Summer 68 in the Great Hall (JWM did three
>>> of them, Meditation, Poverty and Transparent Being) were
>>> awesome. George West did Contemplation, Gene Marshall did
>>> Chastity and Fred Buss did Prayer. Fred Hess did I believe
>>> Transparent Doing but I don't remember who did Obedience and
>>> Transparent Knowing.
>>>
>>> Jack
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 9, 2010, at 8:13 PM, Herman Greene wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have a question as well and am amazed that I had mistaken the
>>>> NRM for the charts concerning the Mountain of Care, River
>>>> ofConsciousness, etc. What did we call the Mountain of Care,
>>>> etc. charts and are they available? Are they on the Golden
>>>> Pathways CD, which I have?
>>>>
>>>> I am also with Frank in asking when did the NRM charts arise?
>>>>
>>>> Further I do remember that NRM was in tandem with the New Social
>>>> Vehicle. Where are the NSV charts?
>>>>
>>>> Herman
>>>>
>>>> From: oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net [mailto:oe-
>>>> bounces at wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of frank bremner
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 9:38 PM
>>>> To: Dialogue OE
>>>> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] The new Religious Mode Charts and the
>>>> 144s
>>>>
>>>> G'day folks!
>>>>
>>>> I have copies of the NRM charts and (somewhere in storage) some
>>>> printed notes about the 144s. But I never found out just what
>>>> the 144s were about. I see that 16 boxes for each NRM chart x 9
>>>> charts = 144 boxes. Were the 144s the precursors to the NM
>>>> charts? And when did they arise?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>> Frank Bremner
>>>>
>>>> From: 2tjmorrison at gmail.com
>>>> To: oe at wedgeblade.net
>>>> Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 21:00:59 -0500
>>>> Subject: [Oe List ...] The new Religious Mode Charts.
>>>>
>>>> Hi!
>>>>
>>>> It is my pleasure to e mail everyone a copy of the NRM charts.
>>>> I think they are among the best products put together by the
>>>> 1970s Movement.
>>>>
>>>> The charts are 3.71 MB . . . .
>>>>
>>>> Tom Morrison
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: M. George Walters
>>>> To: 'Order Ecumenical Community'
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 8:08 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Salmon: 144's charts
>>>>
>>>> If we can get a collection of the PDF’s we can put together in a
>>>> booklet under Resurgence Publishing that can be a download for
>>>> anyone from our website.
>>>>
>>>> If I had a set of the documents, I can scan to PDF and then
>>>> return the documents to their owner.
>>>>
>>>> With kindest regards.
>>>>
>>>> M. George Walters
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net [mailto:oe-
>>>> bounces at wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of Tracy E. Longacre
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 00:41
>>>> To: 'Order Ecumenical Community'
>>>> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Salmon: 144's charts
>>>>
>>>> Tom or Bill,
>>>>
>>>> Can you send me the PDFs of the NRM charts?
>>>>
>>>> Tracy E. Longacre
>>>> from Bukavu, DR Congo
>>>>
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>>>> I just want to melt away in all its grace, drift away into that
>>>> sacred place, where there’s no more you and me, no more they and
>>>> we, just unity. -Trevor Hall
>>>>
>>>> From: oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net [mailto:oe-
>>>> bounces at wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of William Salmon
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 9 March 2010 4:58 AM
>>>> To: Thomas Morrison
>>>> Cc: Ecumenical Order
>>>> Subject: [Oe List ...] Salmon: 144's charts
>>>>
>>>> Tom --
>>>> Well, well! Just as I got all of the charts together and
>>>> ready to mail off to Mary Hopkins, thanks to Ann Jaeks for her
>>>> labors in getting them faxed to me in color. Tom, the charts are
>>>> beautiful. Thanks so much.
>>>> Bill Salmon
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Thomas Morrison
>>>> To: kartes at aol.com ; walters at alaweb.com ; William Salmon ;
>>>> Shelley Hahn ; Bill Parker
>>>> Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 7:47 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: charts
>>>>
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>
>>>> I've attached the nine NRM charts as a pdf. Blessed be Paul at
>>>> Office Depot who always knows what to do for the jobs I bring in.
>>>> The Meditation-Contemplation-Prayer (MCP) charts are
>>>> delightfully probing, pushy in church retreats. In addition,
>>>> for 40 years I've used the MCP charts in an EI-created
>>>> breviary. Each box in Meditation, for example, has some prose
>>>> attached to it. I got it sometime around 1970. Don't know who
>>>> put together the breviary, but I daily give thanks for the
>>>> workshop, (task force, PSU, whatever) that put it together.
>>>>
>>>> Enjoy!
>>>>
>>>> Tom Morrison
>>>>
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