[Oe List ...] Salmon: The new Religious Mode Charts and the 144s

Thu Mar 11 21:11:50 CST 2010

All of this is reminding me why I proposed that we pull together the wisdom
of EI. This is something different than getting pieces of paper into the
archives.

Herman

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From: oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net [mailto:oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net] On Behalf
Of William Salmon
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 10:08 PM
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Subject: [Oe List ...] Salmon: The new Religious Mode Charts and the 144s

Tom--

    Is what you are calling the NRM breviary the "Canonical Hours." If so,
are they in the archives? I'd like to get a copy of it. I used it when
traveling for the ICA and later. 

    Thanks.

    Bill 

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From: Thomas <mailto:2tjmorrison at gmail.com>  Morrison 

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Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 8:34 PM

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Hi everyone,

All the many comments are chipping the rust off of 40yo memories . . .

1)  I have a place mat from the 10th Global Research Assembly (1974) that
shows the 9-NRM charts under the title "The Secular Religious '68".

2)  I had the NRM papers to read while I was in the US Army and still living
at Fort Ord (late 1970).

Further, I think Lutheran Community Church had gotten into the Local Church
Experiment (LCX) by the time (late 1970-early 1971).

Granting all that, then the NRM charts and the NRM breviary (the Hours
included) would have come to me while part of the Watsonville, CA cadre and
through the LCX, no later than early 1971.

Does this sound familiar to others too?  Ruth?  Evelyn?  George?

Tom Morrison

PS  I still have five Social-Process-Triangle papers,  all very long.  They
have been useful in community organizing, but not the easiest thing for me
to remember..  Alas, I no longer have the LCX "tertiary" books--when I
finally internalized them and then moved, they went to the land fill.

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From: Jack Gilles <mailto:icabombay at igc.org>  

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Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 11:28 PM

Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] The new Religious Mode Charts and the 144s

David, 

I also have a Prayer paper by David, but it was not from the Summer, but the
Spring of 70.  I particularly remember the illustration of Fred's about
sitting in a booth and talking about seeing the lady in the next booth 'ear'
grow bigger and bigger as they talked.  Now I may be mistaken, but that's
how I remember it.  I guess we could ask Fred or David which of them gave
it.  The lectures of S70 when printed did not have the names of who gave
them on them. 

Jack

On Mar 9, 2010, at 9:20 PM, David Walters wrote:

I remember these from the summer of 70 and thet David Scot did the Prayer
lecture. i still have a copy of it.

David Walters.

PS  That same summer I was sitting next to David on the floor in the back of
Room A against the wall when he mumbled  sommething disparaging about the
person in the front of the room and  what he was rambling on about and the
person on the other side of David elbowed him in the ribs and declared that
he could someday find himself on a deserted island and  that the person up
front could be his only collegue.

Herman, 

The charts you are talking about are The Other World Charts (land, river,
mountain and sea).  The NRM charts were the work of 1968, but may have begun
in 67 or even earlier.  They were the foundation to the Odyssey, the first
of which was held in the South side RH in Chicago.  I was in that first
event, taught by Fishel and Hess among others.  We didn't make and NSV
charts, but shortly thereafter we created the Social Process triangles.  I
have several papers of talks by JWM on the relationship between the NRM and
NSV, but for me, the insight that has struck me is that the NSV is  the NRM
and vice versa.  They are two sides of the same coin, and it is a matter of
transparency from one to the other.   I think the NRM 144's is perhaps the
best work we ever did and the talks of Summer 68 in the Great Hall (JWM did
three of them, Meditation, Poverty and Transparent Being) were awesome.
George West did Contemplation, Gene Marshall did Chastity and Fred Buss did
Prayer.  Fred Hess did I believe Transparent Doing but I don't remember who
did Obedience and Transparent Knowing.

Jack

On Mar 9, 2010, at 8:13 PM, Herman Greene wrote:

I have a question as well and am amazed that I had mistaken the NRM for the
charts concerning the Mountain of Care, River ofConsciousness, etc. What did
we call the Mountain of Care, etc. charts and are they available? Are they
on the Golden Pathways CD, which I have?

I am also with Frank in asking when did the NRM charts arise?

Further I do remember that NRM was in tandem with the New Social Vehicle.
Where are the NSV charts?

Herman

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From: oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net [mailto:oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net] On Behalf
Of frank bremner
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 9:38 PM
To: Dialogue OE
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G'day folks!  

I have copies of the NRM charts and (somewhere in storage) some printed
notes about the 144s. But I never found out just what the 144s were about.
I see that 16 boxes for each NRM chart x 9 charts = 144 boxes.  Were the
144s the precursors to the NM charts?  And when did they arise?

Cheers

Frank Bremner

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From: 2tjmorrison at gmail.com
To: oe at wedgeblade.net
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 21:00:59 -0500
Subject: [Oe List ...] The new Religious Mode Charts.

Hi!

It is my pleasure to e mail everyone a copy of the NRM charts.  I think they
are among the best products put together by the 1970s Movement.

The charts are 3.71 MB . . . .

Tom Morrison

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From: M. <mailto:m.george.walters at verizon.net>  George Walters

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Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 8:08 AM

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If we can get a collection of the PDF's we can put together in a booklet
under Resurgence Publishing that can be a download for anyone from our
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If I had a set of the documents, I can scan to PDF and then return the
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Tom or Bill,

Can you send me the PDFs of the NRM charts?

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From: oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net [mailto:oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net] On Behalf
Of William Salmon
Sent: Tuesday, 9 March 2010 4:58 AM
To: Thomas Morrison
Cc: Ecumenical Order
Subject: [Oe List ...] Salmon: 144's charts

Tom --

    Well, well! Just as I got all of the charts together and ready to mail
off to Mary Hopkins, thanks to Ann Jaeks for her labors in getting them
faxed to me in color. Tom, the charts are beautiful. Thanks so much.

    Bill Salmon

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From: Thomas <mailto:2tjmorrison at gmail.com>  Morrison

To: kartes at aol.com ; walters at alaweb.com ; William Salmon
<mailto:wsalmon at cox.net>  ; Shelley <mailto:shelley.l.hahn at gmail.com>  Hahn
; Bill Parker <mailto:bparker175 at cox.net> 

Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 7:47 PM

Subject: Re: charts

Hi everyone,

I've attached the nine NRM charts as a pdf.  Blessed be Paul at Office Depot
who always knows what to do for the jobs I bring in.

The Meditation-Contemplation-Prayer (MCP) charts are delightfully probing,
pushy in church retreats.  In addition, for 40 years I've used the MCP
charts in an EI-created breviary.  Each box in Meditation, for example, has
some prose attached to it.  I got it sometime around 1970.  Don't know who
put together the breviary, but I daily give thanks for the workshop, (task
force, PSU, whatever) that put it together.

Enjoy!

Tom Morrison

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