[Oe List ...] Federal budget

Mon Nov 15 10:31:09 CST 2010

You can see the pie chart developed by AFSC at
http://www.oneminuteforpeace.org/budget.

It does not include entitlement programs like Social Security and Medicare
(nondiscretionary spending). I'm not clear whether Medicaid is considered
discretionary or nondiscretionary.

Note that AFSC references the OMB link that I sent as the basis of its
calculations.

Also note that AFSC did not include Homeland Security in its defense
figures.

So it appears that 59% of the discretionary budget is for defense.

Herman

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From: oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net [mailto:oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net] On Behalf
Of Janice Ulangca
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 11:19 AM
To: Order Ecumenical Community
Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Federal budget

It's good we're trying to dig out the real story - not easy.  I've
highlighted a couple of things in red.

The material I got from the American Friends Service Committee listed all
the following things under the "military" category:  Department of Defense +
War (Including "special supplements" to pay for the wars in Iraq and
Afghanistan) + Veterans Affairs + Nuclear Weapons Programs:  all this came
to 59% of the  "Federal discretionary budget sent by President Obama to
Congress in January 2011.  Percentages are rounded."  Nuclear Weapons
Programs are usually listed under the Energy Department.  AFSC broke out the
amount for Energy that is not related to the nuclear weapons program and got
1% of the total discretionary budget. 

The American Friends Service Committee is trying to raise "one minute for
peace" - the amount of income tax dollars being spent on "military" -
including all the categories above - every minute. More information,
including a colored pie chart and a link to the government site for the Feb.
2010 budget proposal:

www.oneminuteforpeace.org/budget              

Re Randy's good point:  The AFSC material says this: "The total of the U.S.
military budget dwarfs the next largest military budget.  In fact, the
United States spends as much on our military as the combined totals of the
next 15 largest budgets.  That's China, Russia, Britain, France, Japan,
Germany, Saudi Arabia, South Korea, India, Brazil, Italy, Austria, Canada,
Indonesia, and the Netherlands!"

Janice

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From: R Williams <mailto:rcwmbw at yahoo.com>  

To: Order Ecumenical <mailto:oe at wedgeblade.net>  Community 

Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 7:32 AM

Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Federal budget

The key for me is what the US spends on war/defense compared to what the
rest of the whole inhabited earth spends.  The story is that the US spends
more than all the rest of the nations combined, but I have not seen the
actural numbers. 

Randy

--- On Sun, 11/14/10, Susan Fertig <susan at gmdtech.com> wrote:

From: Susan Fertig <susan at gmdtech.com>
Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Federal budget
To: "'Order Ecumenical Community'" <oe at wedgeblade.net>
Date: Sunday, November 14, 2010, 7:21 PM

Hmmm-in the first link below, the Health and Human Services budget is shown
at $900 billion, with $719 billion for Defense Department (of which $200
billion is for defense efforts in Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen)--which is
inconsistent with the chart below, in particular the $600 billion for "all
other departments".

I wonder how much of the Defense budget is for personnel and how much for
defense systems.  When I have time I'll try to ferret that out. 

Susan

From: oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net [mailto:oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net] On Behalf
Of Herman Greene
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 11:29 AM
To: 'Order Ecumenical Community'
Subject: [Oe List ...] Federal budget

http://www.onlineforextrading.com/articles/2011-federal-budget 

http://www.federalbudget.com/ 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_federal_budget 

Here's a chart for 2010 just considering "discretionary spending." People go
both ways on whether Social Security is part of the Federal Budget. 

On Thursday February 26th, the US Federal
<http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/>  Budget for 2010 was released. In a
sea of 140 pages, there was over $600 billion going to defense and roughly
another $600 billion going towards all other departments and programs. Obama
forecasts a $1.75 trillion deficit increase but for the overall US deficit
to be halved by the end of his term, partially through $989 billion in new
taxes. (Guess what's happening to the new taxes.)

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