[Oe List ...] Very close to the indicative is the imperative

Sat Nov 27 11:17:14 CST 2010

One of the keys for me in Brooks' statement is "In the Middle Age" and "novelist."  In this tech age when novels are a "mile a minute" and when poets and activists can ping between worlds in less than an eye blink, it's difficult to hang onto any point of view for very long.  Even in the telling there is mutation from one moment (telling) to the next, and in the doing, like Jim says "what you see is way different."

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On Nov 27, 2010, at 10:47 AM, Herman Greene wrote:

> I was thinking more about Tolstoy’s power of description as a novelist and as explained by Brooks. Nothing more.
> His description, became the imperative (framed every subsequent choice).
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> I didn’t think of his description as having a subjective bias so one is led to “see the world as Tolstoy saw it” rather I thought Tolstoy’s description allowed peoples to see the world as it is.
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> Herman
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> From: oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net [mailto:oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of Susan Fertig
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> Hmmm, maybe I didn’t quite understand what Brooks was saying. I can often be persuaded to understand another’s point of view (see the world as he does) without adopting it; and while I’d like to think that if I understand the other point of view I would then consider it in subsequent decisions, I can’t say that is always the case. But I like Jim’s observation that once you engage your reality changes.
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> Susan
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> From: oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net [mailto:oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of James Wiegel
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> He kind of makes the case for poets and activists living in separate worlds, and for the human agony that you can't do much as an observer, and once you engage in doing something,  what you see is way different . . .
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> Jim Wiegel
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> On Nov 26, 2010, at 7:36, "Herman Greene" <hgreene at greenelawnc.com> wrote:
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> This quote from David Brook’s Op-Ed today:
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> “In middle age, it was as a novelist that Tolstoy achieved his most lasting influence. After all, description is prescription. If you can get people to see the world as you do, you have unwittingly framed every subsequent choice.”
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>  http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/26/opinion/26brooks.html?_r=1&hp
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