[Oe List ...] the Question of the Order

Jack Gilles icabombay at igc.org
Mon Sep 13 16:58:25 CDT 2010


Randy,

I don't have time for a long response as I'm still having to use the local village cybercafe.  The Order I refer to (Community of Practice??) is the one we have been calling the Springboard group.  In the many times we met, but especially in Asheville a couple of years ago, we talked about our being a dispersed Order, covenanted together and we wrote a draft of that covenant.  We have not attempted to work on polity, or other form issues, but there is a fairly large group of us who see ourselves as the Order.  It also includes some people from India who never knew of our OE history, only the presence of myself and Judy.  Herman Greene is very strong on our need to move this forward.  Let's see what emerges.  Until the mission of a dispersed group of colleagues becomes clearer we can go easy on these questions.  But the building of a curriculum, based on our post-OKC meeting is a good start.

G&P,

Jack
On Sep 13, 2010, at 8:57 AM, R Williams wrote:

> Jack,
>  
> Great start to what I hope will be an extended conversation among many of us!  Two questions come quickly to my mind.  What are we talking about when we say ICA-USA--an institution with a small professional staff and a volunteer board--or what--and what are we talking about when we throw in ICAI, the other national ICAs and the colleagues across the country who want some kind of formal affiliation?
>  
> Second, what now is the Order to which you refer?  You suggest it is "we" who, though dispersed and without form or structure, are/were covenanted together.  In other places you refer to "our" work.  Some have gone so far as to suggest there is no "we" and "our."  Assuming however that there is, what is the articulation of the covenant which binds us now, and how shall we include those who have no experience of the Order of the past but are now so indispensible to us?
>  
> I believe these are among the many questions with which we all need to wrestle, which have to do not with theoretical or intellectual definitions but with practical implications for our strategic approach in the immediate and long-term future.
>  
> Randy
> 

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