[Oe List ...] On turning 65, puncture pedagogy, an apology and dialogue

[M. George Walters]

Happy 65th Herman

I actually think wisdom can be shared with those who have the experience to
connect it to their own lives, but then when it is theirs it is transformed
through their own unique collection of experiences and they pass it own as
something new to others.

 

Many of us have come to appreciate a great deal of wisdom in you so you now
have marked the milestone that makes sharing it more imperative than
indicative.  This includes risking the disagreements that make you think
further when the experiences of others do not connect in the same manner as
your own.

 

Grace and Peace.

 

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From: oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net [mailto:oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net] On Behalf
Of Herman Greene
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 09:14
To: 'Order Ecumenical Community'
Subject: [Oe List ...] On turning 65, puncture pedagogy, an apology and
dialogue

 

Today is my 65th birthday. It's one of those milestone years. A person once
said to me that at any given age, one can say "A lot of people have been,
e.g., 65, but for you it's something you've never experienced before." Then
he said you can pass on knowledge but not experience, you have to experience
your own experience. 

 

So my experience is . . . well I guess I really am an elder, senior or
whatever you call it now. So I'll have to find out what this is about.

 

I have a name for an aspect of our old pedagogy. It is "puncture" pedagogy,
as in puncturing illusions and cutting through defenses to get to the heart
of the matter. When I think of this, I think of Donna McCleskey and Fred
Hess as being particular adept at this. 

 

I have always carried a part of this way of being a communicator with me-as
you might expect, with mixed success. People get angry sometimes and they
often don't see what from your vantage point is the heart of the matter and
instead see only arrogance. And sometimes, I am sure I have been arrogant
and not a pedagogue at all when using this "method." 

 

This leads to an apology to Terry Bergdall. I didn't give what he wrote
about the mission of ICA its due. And I'll beg off my self-initiated debate
on content, method . . . process, medium, etc., they are all important.

 

And this leads to dialogue which I proposed as a method. I happened across
an article I had saved on this method and was struck by the first principle
of dialogue, which is to suspend judgment. Well this punctures my illusion
of how well I am practicing dialogue as a method.

 

Here are the seven principles:

 

The dialogue as a method

The seven commandments of the dialogue method

*	Suspending judgment
 
*	Identifying and suspending one's own assumptions
 
*	Beginning by listening
 
*	The basis is investigation and reflection
 
*	Attention to non-verbal communication
 
*	Good discussion guidelines
 
*	Firm chairing

Kerk en Wereld
Dialogue as a method

There is a more extensive presentation attached.

 

Debate is one-way communication with the goal being to exert influence.

 

Dialogue is two-way communication aiming at consensus, or at least growing
from another's viewpoint.

 

In an event, I believe dialogue is part of the new pedagogy, and, being
older and wiser now, I apologize to Terry.

 

Herman 

 

  

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