[Oe List ...] [Dialogue] The Emerging Shape of the New Pedagogy and a reference to David Whyte

[Sarah Buss]

I went to his retreat a year ago. The thing I like best is a CD of his.
Sarah

On Sep 20, 2010, at 1:33 PM, Ruth H. Gilbert wrote:

> Paul,
> That is a great poem!
>
> After reading it, I went on line to introduce myself to the poet,  
> David
> Whyte. He is a new one for me. Many thanks for the reference!
>
> Ruth Gilbert
>
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> Subject: Re: [Dialogue] The Emerging Shape of the New Pedagogy and a
> reference to David Whyte
>
> Here is a fine example of David Whyte's poetry, which challenges us to
> a interact powerfully with others. Maybe he is even inviting us to
> participate in a new pedagogy.
>
> START CLOSE IN
>
> Start close in,
> don't take the second step
> or the third,
> start with the first
> thing
> close in,
> the step you don't want to take.
>
> Start with
> the ground
> you know,
> the pale ground
> beneath your feet,
> your own
> way of starting
> the conversation.
>
> Start with your own
> question,
> give up on other
> people's questions,
> don't let them
> smother something
> simple.
>
> To find
> another's voice
> follow
> your own voice,
>
> wait until
> that voice
> becomes a
> private ear
> listening
> to another.
>
> Start right now
> take a small step
> you can call your own
> don't follow
> someone else's
> heroics, be humble
> and focused,
> start close in,
> don't mistake
> that other
> for your own.
>
> Start close in,
> don't take the second step
> or the third,
> start with the first
> thing
> close in,
> the step you don't want to take.
>
>
> ~ David Whyte ~
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Dunn <dmdunn1 at gmail.com>
> To: OECommunity Community <oe at wedgeblade.net>; Dialogue' Listserv
> <dialogue at wedgeblade.net>; Springboard Listserv
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> Sent: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 17:09
> Subject: Re: [Dialogue] The Emerging Shape of the New Pedagogy and a
> reference to David Whyte
>
>
>
> On Sep 19, 2010, Bill Parker wrote about our changing times and the
> changing nature of our calling:
>
>
>
>
> There is no new pedagogy nor new pedagogue without embodying that  
> which
> is being disclosed in the style of the pedagogy. RSI changed our
> lives because the pedagogues were living their pedagogy! That reality
> was the methodology. We, too, are called to be that embodiment
> regardless of whether we say yes or no to what history is asking us to
> do.
>
>
>
>
> Pat Webb and I had an email exchange recently that fits into this
> conversation. I wrote to Pat:
>
>
> My quest has been revealed to me in a rather more clear light  
> recently.
> I introduced myself with the expression "post-Christian secular
> religious" for the first time in public a few weeks ago and surprised
> myself by giving a name for what I've been reaching for for some  
> years.
> It's a puzzlement to find myself in but not off the church, in and not
> of the world — both of which seem to equate to "in but not of my own
> symbol system." There are surely a myriad conversations to be had  
> about
> one's calling when the calling seems to transcend the faith tradition
> that gave us heart to recognize and ears to hear the call. It all  
> seems
> a bit torturous.
>
>
> To which Pat replied:
>
>
>
> I think these words describe very accurately the human journey of our
> times.  We are asked to be grounded and expanded at the same time,
> reaching out and including more and more in our little image
> baskets because the Earth is desperate for that.
>
>
>
> …and then added a provocative reference:
>
>
> People who are aware of this process and consciously cooperating with
> it are developing what David Whyte calls "True Presence" and a
> "Conversational Identity".  If you haven't gotten his Live in San
> Francisco DVD, you and Burna would just love it!  I think I ordered it
> for $15 on his website DavidWhyte. com  ???? You might want to  
> check it
> out.  Good spirit nurture.
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards to all.
>
>
> David
>
>
>
>
>
> David Dunn
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