[Oe List ...] New Pedagogy and New Pedagogues

Wed Sep 29 01:26:24 CDT 2010

I like our lists. I suppose this is a list serve.

Maybe we should make a list of some of the great pedagogues who have had an 
 impact on us the last 20 years. 

Here are a few:

David Whyte
Richard McDonald
Robert Bly
Rowan Williams
Thich Nhat Hanh

The list is long.....

Paul

In a message dated 28/09/2010 22:31:46 GMT Daylight Time, shbuss at mac.com  
writes:

I went  to his retreat a year ago. The thing I like best is a CD of  his.
Sarah

On Sep 20, 2010, at 1:33 PM, Ruth H. Gilbert  wrote:

> Paul,
> That is a great poem!
>
> After  reading it, I went on line to introduce myself to the poet,  
>  David
> Whyte. He is a new one for me. Many thanks for the  reference!
>
> Ruth Gilbert
>
> -----Original  Message-----
> From: dialogue-bounces at wedgeblade.net
>  [mailto:dialogue-bounces at wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of  
>  pschrijnen at aol.com
> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 11:21 AM
>  To: dialogue at wedgeblade.net; oe at wedgeblade.net;  
>  springboard at wedgeblade.net
> Subject: Re: [Dialogue] The Emerging Shape  of the New Pedagogy and a
> reference to David Whyte
>
>  Here is a fine example of David Whyte's poetry, which challenges us to
>  a interact powerfully with others. Maybe he is even inviting us to
>  participate in a new pedagogy.
>
> START CLOSE IN
>
>  Start close in,
> don't take the second step
> or the  third,
> start with the first
> thing
> close in,
>  the step you don't want to take.
>
> Start with
> the  ground
> you know,
> the pale ground
> beneath your  feet,
> your own
> way of starting
> the  conversation.
>
> Start with your own
> question,
>  give up on other
> people's questions,
> don't let them
>  smother something
> simple.
>
> To find
> another's  voice
> follow
> your own voice,
>
> wait  until
> that voice
> becomes a
> private ear
>  listening
> to another.
>
> Start right now
> take a  small step
> you can call your own
> don't follow
> someone  else's
> heroics, be humble
> and focused,
> start close  in,
> don't mistake
> that other
> for your  own.
>
> Start close in,
> don't take the second  step
> or the third,
> start with the first
> thing
>  close in,
> the step you don't want to take.
>
>
> ~  David Whyte ~
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original  Message-----
> From: David Dunn <dmdunn1 at gmail.com>
> To:  OECommunity Community <oe at wedgeblade.net>; Dialogue' Listserv
>  <dialogue at wedgeblade.net>; Springboard Listserv
>  <springboard at wedgeblade.net>
> Sent: Mon, 20 Sep 2010  17:09
> Subject: Re: [Dialogue] The Emerging Shape of the New Pedagogy  and a
> reference to David Whyte
>
>
>
> On Sep  19, 2010, Bill Parker wrote about our changing times and the
> changing  nature of our calling:
>
>
>
>
> There is no new  pedagogy nor new pedagogue without embodying that  
> which
>  is being disclosed in the style of the pedagogy. RSI changed our
> lives  because the pedagogues were living their pedagogy! That reality
> was  the methodology. We, too, are called to be that embodiment
> regardless  of whether we say yes or no to what history is asking us to
>  do.
>
>
>
>
> Pat Webb and I had an email  exchange recently that fits into this
> conversation. I wrote to  Pat:
>
>
> My quest has been revealed to me in a rather more  clear light  
> recently.
> I introduced myself with the  expression "post-Christian secular
> religious" for the first time in  public a few weeks ago and surprised
> myself by giving a name for what  I've been reaching for for some  
> years.
> It's a  puzzlement to find myself in but not off the church, in and not
> of the  world — both of which seem to equate to "in but not of my own
> symbol  system." There are surely a myriad conversations to be had  
>  about
> one's calling when the calling seems to transcend the faith  tradition
> that gave us heart to recognize and ears to hear the call.  It all  
> seems
> a bit torturous.
>
>
>  To which Pat replied:
>
>
>
> I think these words  describe very accurately the human journey of our
> times.  We are  asked to be grounded and expanded at the same time,
> reaching out and  including more and more in our little image
> baskets because the Earth  is desperate for that.
>
>
>
> …and then added a  provocative reference:
>
>
> People who are aware of this  process and consciously cooperating with
> it are developing what David  Whyte calls "True Presence" and a
> "Conversational Identity".  If  you haven't gotten his Live in San
> Francisco DVD, you and Burna would  just love it!  I think I ordered it
> for $15 on his website  DavidWhyte. com  ???? You might want to  
> check it
>  out.  Good spirit  nurture.
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards to  all.
>
>
>  David
>
>
>
>
>
> David Dunn
> 740 S  Alton Way 9B
> Denver, CO 80247
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