[Oe List ...] When did Joe Mathews image shift?

George Holcombe geowanda at earthlink.net
Wed Aug 3 17:12:43 EDT 2011


The other question here is what persuaded Joe to leave Perkins, an established institution, and go to Faith and Life in Austin?  In a discussion I had with Dr. Albert Outler, the famed Wesley expert and professor at Perkins, about a year before his death, he talked about how he had tried to talk Joe into finishing his dissertation, which would have meant tenure at Perkins and a comfortable life, etc.  Something happened, maybe Slicker knows, that sent Joe to Faith and Life, which was a struggling student program in Austin, which conservative church people had taken aim.  His education from WWII had boiled into something.  That illustration about stepping out over 40,000 fathoms of jello, was probably not a cute invention.

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On Aug 1, 2011, at 7:31 PM, David Walters wrote:

> You have to read Bending History and the other  transcribed talks that we have along  with Brother Joe to understand what happened to Joe in the 40s which are decidedly different from this journey in the 30s. As I remember it, Joe went into the army a year or less after he had finished  seminary in New York where he had encountered the Neibuhrs, Tillich, and others,. I think his experience in the Pacific radically grounded what he had learned from them. Transformation became a new word for him. He finally knew what Wesley was talking about.
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> -David Walters
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> --- jfwiegel at yahoo.com wrote:
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> From: James Wiegel <jfwiegel at yahoo.com>
> To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at wedgeblade.net>
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> Subject: [Oe List ...] When did Joe Mathews image shift?
> Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 15:07:11 -0700 (PDT)
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> so, I have a question:  what was it that radicalized Joe Mathews?  In 1946, he was going on about how his theology had changed because of the war (WWII).  By the time of these talks he is all about the social revolution and the radical revolution and the people of God are revolutionaries.  What happened?
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> Was Joe ever engaged in the civil rights movement?  Did he go to Selma?  I have testimony that David Scott was there, and he met Betty Pesek there . . . What about Bonnie Swain?  did she play a role?
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> Jim Wiegel
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