[Oe List ...] OJWDA
    John Cock 
    jpc2025 at triad.rr.com
       
    Tue Aug  9 10:06:49 EDT 2011
    
    
  
You wrote: "Just using the process does not assure responsible decisions." 
 
TRULY. 
 
That's your job as acting Chr. of ICA-USA Board. Please straighten out the
Tea Party and Standard and Poor's values/depth immediately.  
 
John 
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From: oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net [mailto:oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net] On Behalf
Of R Williams
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 9:21 AM
To: Order Ecumenical Community
Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] OJWDA
Just using the process does not assure responsible decisions.  The quality
of the values being held in the"judge" and "weigh up" steps are critical.
If the decision is made on behalf of a special interest, be it group and/or
ideology, etc., without taking into account the short and long-term impact
upon the whole and the common good, it would be difficult to see it as
"responsible."  Two of our consistent values were/are comprehensiveness and
depth.
 
Randy
From: Evelyn Philbrook <joyful52 at gmail.com>
To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at wedgeblade.net>
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2011 7:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] OJWDA
Well said John, and I  particularly appreciate your last line about saying
it more forcefully!
Evelyn sitting in Taipei on a soon to be hot muggy summer day while it is
still cool in the morning
On 8/9/2011 5:15 AM, John Cock wrote: 
Good illustration of Bonhoeffer's OJWDA by S&P (Standard & Poor's) action on
USA credit worthiness: 
 
 Observe: all the data 
Judge: USA vulnerable 
Weigh up: "not much difference between AAA and AA+ rating; a nudge for USA
to do better" (paraphrase of their head man) 
Decide: publish/proclaim the lower rating 
Act: they did at close of day on Friday and all hell broke loose in global
markets today 
 
 They screwed up on WEIGH UP: the difference it makes for USA and global
economies is enormous, quite possibly a double dip global recession.
 
 A good example of moralism ... which seldom weighs up: go by the rules no
matter the consequences (also Tea Party). 
 
 Moody's and Fitch agencies left USA at AAA rating. 
 
 End of illustration. 
 
 I do not like the morality (values/depth) of the Tea Party members in
Congress and S&P. (I could have said this much more forcefully!)
 
 John 
     
 
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