[Oe List ...] Salmon:Wiegel

Fri Jun 3 06:25:31 CDT 2011

To David Walters

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From: oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net [mailto:oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net] On Behalf
Of David Walters
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 00:15
To: Order Ecumenical Community
Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Salmon:Wiegel

When I was in the Academy, someone walked up to the chalk board to begin his
lecture by quoting some existentialist fron the 19th 
century, which seemed so odd that he would do so while trying to leture a
group of people who where there to learn to be 20th century churchmen. Can't
remember who it was. I'm sure it wasn't Gene Marshal because he wasn't
wearing surgical gloves due to his allergy to chalk. I was probaly Lingo or
Shinn.

Anyway back to the quote. It went something like ..... When Salmon relates
himself to himself, and by willing  to relate himself to himself, he somehow
grounds himself in his own theological jargon. I think I got that right, but
sometimes late at night I get things turned around a little bit.

Grace an peace

-David Walters

--- wsalmon at cox.net wrote:

From: "William Salmon" <wsalmon at cox.net>
To: "Order Ecumenical Community" <oe at wedgeblade.net>
Subject: [Oe List ...] Salmon:Wiegel
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 22:20:29 -0500

Jim--

    Perhaps we'll need a little "Weigle" room on this one. 

    It's best to let Rendle speak for himself--so check out the article and
buy the book.

    However, I believe he would say that what the 10 million are hanging on
to is an illusion of reality -- very bad to live a lie, eh what? Letting go
means to replace the "contemporary" methods with a new purpose rather than
just new methods. 

    OK, OK, I know, what is the new purpose? Go back to my first sentence
and follow instructions. 

    I did not say he had all the answers--that's my position. I did say that
what I read ABOUT HIS BOOK appeared to be a sign of hope amidst all of the
crap that is presented as authentic change. 

    In particular I Iiked the image of the Wilderness being a place of
renewal and preparation for something new. That, my friend, is something new
to me. For me the desert is the description of where we live as human folk
(on Vacation); the Promised Land --my Spiritual Oasis--is where we fulfill
our intended creation to live the humane and gracious life (at Home) while
working for justice and mercy. Thank you very much, R. Niebuhr. 

    Inner Peas, 

    Bill

----- Original Message ----- 

From: James Wiegel <mailto:jfwiegel at yahoo.com>  

To: Order Ecumenical Community <mailto:oe at wedgeblade.net>  

Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 6:10 PM

Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Salmon: Signs of hope?

"For anyone still connected to a mainline church" -- how many is that, would
you guess?  10 million in the US??  5??

Your statement seems to suggest a proposal that the best case would be for
these folks to quit hanging on and  . . . what??

Jim Wiegel

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--- On Wed, 6/1/11, George Packard <george.packard1 at rcn.com> wrote:

From: George Packard <george.packard1 at rcn.com>
Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Salmon: Signs of hope?
To: "'Order Ecumenical Community'" <oe at wedgeblade.net>
Date: Wednesday, June 1, 2011, 3:33 PM

Right on Pastor Bill! 

For anyone still connected to a mainline church Wedland"s stuff is a
fantastic resource. She has consistently maintained a positive "enlightened
pew perspective" through out the last two decades.

George

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From: oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net [mailto:oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net] On Behalf
Of William Salmon
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 12:13 PM
To: OE at wedgeblade.net
Subject: [Oe List ...] Salmon: Signs of hope?

Colleagues All--

    Recently, I've noted a slight shift taking place from all of the
negativity of the collapse to something that might approach a tiny light of
hope. 

    I've attached a newsletter written by Barbara Wendland, "Connections."
Wendland is a theologically trained laywoman (Perkins School of Theology)
and a thorn-in-the-side of the traditional church. For years--maybe 30--she
has written her newsletter exploring the voice of a progressive critic of
things-as-they-are. 

    This month's letter reviews a book by Guy Rendle (seems familiar--but I
can't tell you why) titled, "Journey in the Wilderness: New Life for
Mainline Churches." 

    His use of the wilderness is patterned after that of the Exodus in which
he sees people, ". . . being shaped as a new people with a new identity,
fresh purpose, and. . .a new hope." 

    See what you think. If you haven'et send an email to Wendland to a free
subscription to her newsletter, and see what you think.

    Inner Peace, 

    Bill

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