[Oe List ...] Salmon:Wiegel
W. J.
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Sat Jun 4 00:19:15 CDT 2011
Definitely not 'Paul Sartre' aka Jean-Paul Sartre.
Try S. Kierkegaard instead.
Marshall
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To David Walters
Paul Sartre – father of modern psychology.
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David Walters
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 00:15
To: Order Ecumenical Community
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When I was in the Academy, someone walked up to the chalk board to begin his
lecture by quoting some existentialist fron the 19th
century, which seemed so odd that he would do so while trying to leture a group
of people who where there to learn to be 20th century churchmen. Can't remember
who it was. I'm sure it wasn't Gene Marshal because he wasn't wearing surgical
gloves due to his allergy to chalk. I was probaly Lingo or Shinn.
Anyway back to the quote. It went something like ..... When Salmon relates
himself to himself, and by willing to relate himself to himself, he somehow
grounds himself in his own theological jargon. I think I got that right, but
sometimes late at night I get things turned around a little bit.
Grace an peace
-David Walters
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From: "William Salmon" <wsalmon at cox.net>
To: "Order Ecumenical Community" <oe at wedgeblade.net>
Subject: [Oe List ...] Salmon:Wiegel
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 22:20:29 -0500
Jim--
Perhaps we'll need a little "Weigle" room on this one.
It's best to let Rendle speak for himself--so check out the article and buy
the book.
However, I believe he would say that what the 10 million are hanging on to
is an illusion of reality -- very bad to live a lie, eh what? Letting go means
to replace the "contemporary" methods with a new purpose rather than just new
methods.
OK, OK, I know, what is the new purpose? Go back to my first sentence and
follow instructions.
I did not say he had all the answers--that's my position. I did say that
what I read ABOUT HIS BOOK appeared to be a sign of hope amidst all of the crap
that is presented as authentic change.
In particular I Iiked the image of the Wilderness being a place of renewal
and preparation for something new. That, my friend, is something new to me. For
me the desert is the description of where we live as humanfolk (on Vacation);
the Promised Land --my Spiritual Oasis--is where we fulfill our intended
creation to live the humane and gracious life (at Home) while working for
justice and mercy. Thank you very much, R. Niebuhr.
Inner Peas,
Bill
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>From:James Wiegel
>To:Order Ecumenical Community
>Sent:Wednesday, June 01, 2011 6:10 PM
>Subject:Re: [Oe List ...] Salmon: Signs of hope?
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>"For anyone still connected to a mainline church" -- how many is that, would you
>guess? 10 million in the US?? 5??
>
>Your statement seems to suggest a proposal that the best case would be for these
>folks to quit hanging on and . . . what??
>
>Jim Wiegel
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>From: George Packard <george.packard1 at rcn.com>
>Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Salmon: Signs of hope?
>To: "'Order Ecumenical Community'" <oe at wedgeblade.net>
>Date: Wednesday, June 1, 2011, 3:33 PM
>Right on Pastor Bill!
>For anyone still connected to a mainline church Wedland"s stuff is a fantastic
>resource. She has consistently maintained a positive "enlightened pew
>perspective" through out the last two decades.
>George
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>From:oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net [mailto:oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of
>William Salmon
>Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 12:13 PM
>To: OE at wedgeblade.net
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>Colleagues All--
> Recently, I've noted a slight shift taking place from all of the negativity
>of the collapse to something that might approach a tiny light of hope.
>
> I've attached a newsletter written by Barbara Wendland, "Connections."
>Wendland is a theologically trained laywoman (Perkins School of Theology) and a
>thorn-in-the-side of the traditional church. For years--maybe 30--she has
>written her newsletter exploring the voice of a progressive critic of
>things-as-they-are.
>
> This month's letter reviews a book by Guy Rendle (seems familiar--but I
>can't tell you why) titled, "Journey in the Wilderness: New Life for Mainline
>Churches."
>
> His use of the wilderness is patterned after that of the Exodus in which he
>sees people, ". . . being shaped as a new people with a new identity, fresh
>purpose, and. . .a new hope."
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> See what you think. If you haven'et send an email to Wendland to a free
>subscription to her newsletter, and see what you think.
> Inner Peace,
> Bill
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