[Oe List ...] Salmon: Last night

[William Salmon]

George, 
    Sorry for the miscommunication last night. It was good to see Chris. I tested my end of the microphone, picture and sound and got back an OK. Were your speakers on? This is frequently my problem too. 
    Thanks for the message on contemplation. Your remarks about the three-day fast and scrubbing our graves flooded me with memories of the KC House basement and then some corner of the West Side Academy. 
    Tell Chris and Dharma hello. Perhaps we can try again soon.
    Bill 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: George Holcombe 
  To: Order Ecumenical Community 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 6:27 AM
  Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] OE Digest, Vol 90, Issue 52


  After reading some of our responses (I'm a little late), I ran across this from Richard Rohr's daily meditation, and sent me back to our 3 day fast and scrubbing our graves.


  "Contemplation is not first of all about being religious, introverted, or pious—it is about being emotionally and mentally honest! Contemplation is an alternative consciousness that refuses to identify with or feed what are only passing shows.It is the absolute opposite of addiction, consumerism, or any egoic consciousness.
  Egoic consciousness is the one we all normally operate with, until we are told there is something else. At the egoic level it is all about me, my preferences, my choices, my needs, my desires, and me and my group as the central reference point. Most people do not even know there is another way of thinking or feeling. It was religion's job to tell them about a different kind of software, and the original word for it was simply prayer. But even the concept and practice of prayer became captive to the voracious needs of the ego.  Even prayer became a way to get God to do what we wanted"


  George Holcombe
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  "Stay hungry, stay foolish"  Whole Earth Catalog via Steve Jobs


  On Oct 31, 2011, at 10:32 AM, R Williams wrote:


    When thinking of holding the interior life and the exterior mission in creative tension the names of two who appear to have done and have written about it are Matthew Fox and Parker Palmer.  Randy






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