[Oe List ...] Poorer, poorer, slower, slower, smaller

Jean Watts jw at facilitativeleader.com
Wed Feb 22 09:22:17 EST 2012


Roger,
I think there is a lot of truth in the article.  The internal violence does eventually manifest externally and prevents us from evolving and becoming who we really are and what we really are about.  Balancing the three is very difficult in our culture - more so today I think than in the 60's and 70's. 
Jean

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>   2. Re: Poorer, poorer, slower, slower, smaller,	smaller by Bob
>      Sabath of Sojorniers (Herman Greene)
>   3. Re: FW: Jesse Clements (Otto, Ken)
>   4. asbestos (jonzondo at juno.com)
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> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 12:07:21 -0600
> From: "Roger Alexander" <ralexan934 at sbcglobal.net>
> To: <OE at wedgeblade.net>, "ICA dialogue" <Dialogue at wedgeblade.net>
> Subject: [Oe List ...] Poorer, poorer, slower, slower, smaller,
> 	smaller by Bob Sabath of Sojorniers
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>  Dear Colleagues:
> 
>  I found this to be an interesting article. I couldn't help but wonder how some of you would respond to it. Here is an exerpt and a link to the full article is below:
> 
>  "To allow oneself to be carried away by a multitude of conflicting concerns, to surrender to too many demands, to commit oneself to too many projects ... is to succumb to violence. The frenzy of our activism ... kills the root of inner wisdom which makes work fruitful."
> 
>        To stay alive, we needed prophet, pastor, and monk.
> 
> 
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> 
> http://sojo.net/blogs/2012/02/16/poorer-poorer-slower-slower-smaller-smaller
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> 
> 
> Roger Alexander
> 5809 Meadowcrest
> Bartlesville, OK 74006
> 918-333-5299
> ralexan934 at sbcglobal.net
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> "Never doubt that a small group of committed people can change the  
> world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."   Margaret Mead
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> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 13:33:33 -0500
> From: "Herman Greene" <hfgreene at mindspring.com>
> To: "'Order Ecumenical Community'" <oe at wedgeblade.net>
> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Poorer, poorer, slower, slower, smaller,
> 	smaller by Bob Sabath of Sojorniers
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> Personally, I think it's a little overstated. Violence is violence, this is
> not.
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> From: oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net [mailto:oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net] On Behalf
> Of Roger Alexander
> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 1:07 PM
> To: OE at wedgeblade.net; ICA dialogue
> Subject: [Oe List ...] Poorer, poorer, slower, slower, smaller,smaller by
> Bob Sabath of Sojorniers
> 
> 
> 
> Dear Colleagues:
> 
> I found this to be an interesting article. I couldn't help but wonder how
> some of you would respond to it. Here is an exerpt and a link to the full
> article is below:
> 
> "To allow oneself to be carried away by a multitude of conflicting concerns,
> to surrender to too many demands, to commit oneself to too many projects ...
> is to succumb to violence. The frenzy of our activism ... kills the root of
> inner wisdom which makes work fruitful."
> 
>        To stay alive, we needed prophet, pastor, and monk.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> http://sojo.net/blogs/2012/02/16/poorer-poorer-slower-slower-smaller-smaller
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Roger Alexander
> 5809 Meadowcrest
> Bartlesville, OK 74006
> 918-333-5299
> <mailto:ralexan934 at sbcglobal.net> ralexan934 at sbcglobal.net
> 
> 
> 
> "Never doubt that a small group of committed people can change the  
> world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."   Margaret Mead
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 13:19:15 -0600
> From: "Otto, Ken" <ottok at crcl.net>
> To: "Order Ecumenical Community" <oe at wedgeblade.net>,	"Colleague
> 	Dialogue" <dialogue at wedgeblade.net>
> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] FW: Jesse Clements
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> Apparently the post I made last Thursday night after Molly called me did
> not make it on to this list.  I also remember being on many construction
> projects at Kemper with Jeese, I wonder if that is where the asbestos
> exposure happened?  Mary Laura and I are going to attend the memorial
> service next Wednesday.  Molly shared with me just like the message from
> Mary Z.
> Ken Otto 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net [mailto:oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net] On
> Behalf Of Lynda Cock
> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 10:20 AM
> To: 'Order Ecumenical Community'; 'Colleague Dialogue'
> Subject: [Oe List ...] FW: Jesse Clements
> 
> Remembering with deep care this family who journeyed with many of us. We
> give thanks for their lives of service and care as we celebrate the
> completed life of Jesse. With sympathy to Molly and the family, 
> 
> Lynda Cock via Doris and Mary Z.     
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: djconway40 at windstream.net [mailto:djconway40 at windstream.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 10:51 AM
> To: Lynda Cock
> Subject: RE: Jesse Clements
> 
> I received this notice from Mary Z. Longstreth who now lives in
> Asheville, NC
> 
> 
> Message below:
> 
> 	
> Dear Colleagues,
> 
> Last weekend a call from Mollie Clements informed us of Jesse's death
> Thursday night Feb. 16, 2012, age 81 (Kalamazoo, Michigan).  Jesse had a
> long cancer illness due to extensive asbestoses exposure decades ago.
> He died quietly with Mollie, several family members present, and home
> hospice support. 
> 
> Jesse had remained alert and communicated until nearly the last of
> life's breath. 
> 
> A memorial service in his memory is scheduled for Feb. 29.  Details for
> that weren't yet set but, presumably, it will be at the First United
> Methodist Church where they've long been active.
> 
> Having visited the Clements several times at their home, we know Mollie
> has quietly struggled with health issues of her own, but she provided
> Jesse's care all the while. 
> 
> Mollie consented for the announcement of Jesse's death to be conveyed to
> colleagues.  Please share this as you think others would appreciate it.
> 
> Messages of condolence may be directed to their home: 2229 LaCross St.
> Kalamazoo, MI 49006.  Mollie's Eaddress: revmollie at aol.com  Phone: 260/
> 226-0910.
> 
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> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 20:36:38 GMT
> From: "jonzondo at juno.com" <jonzondo at juno.com>
> To: oe at wedgeblade.net
> Subject: [Oe List ...] asbestos
> Message-ID: <20120221.123638.14788.0 at webmail05.vgs.untd.com>
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> If anyone on this list is aware of any Asbestos exposure at Kemper, please post the information to this list.  My parents live in Kemper for a long time, and this is important information for all of us.
> Thank you.
> Jon Mark Elizondo
> 
> ---------- Original Message ----------
> From: "Otto, Ken" <ottok at crcl.net>
> 
> Apparently the post I made last Thursday night after Molly called me did
> not make it on to this list.  I also remember being on many construction
> projects at Kemper with Jeese, I wonder if that is where the asbestos
> exposure happened?  Mary Laura and I are going to attend the memorial
> service next Wednesday.  Molly shared with me just like the message from
> Mary Z.
> Ken Otto 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net [mailto:oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net] On
> Behalf Of Lynda Cock
> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 10:20 AM
> To: 'Order Ecumenical Community'; 'Colleague Dialogue'
> Subject: [Oe List ...] FW: Jesse Clements
> 
> Remembering with deep care this family who journeyed with many of us. We
> give thanks for their lives of service and care as we celebrate the
> completed life of Jesse. With sympathy to Molly and the family, 
> 
> Lynda Cock via Doris and Mary Z.     
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: djconway40 at windstream.net [mailto:djconway40 at windstream.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 10:51 AM
> To: Lynda Cock
> Subject: RE: Jesse Clements
> 
> I received this notice from Mary Z. Longstreth who now lives in
> Asheville, NC
> 
> 
> Message below:
> 
> 
> Dear Colleagues,
> 
> Last weekend a call from Mollie Clements informed us of Jesse's death
> Thursday night Feb. 16, 2012, age 81 (Kalamazoo, Michigan).  Jesse had a
> long cancer illness due to extensive asbestoses exposure decades ago.
> He died quietly with Mollie, several family members present, and home
> hospice support. 
> 
> Jesse had remained alert and communicated until nearly the last of
> life's breath. 
> 
> A memorial service in his memory is scheduled for Feb. 29.  Details for
> that weren't yet set but, presumably, it will be at the First United
> Methodist Church where they've long been active.
> 
> Having visited the Clements several times at their home, we know Mollie
> has quietly struggled with health issues of her own, but she provided
> Jesse's care all the while. 
> 
> Mollie consented for the announcement of Jesse's death to be conveyed to
> colleagues.  Please share this as you think others would appreciate it.
> 
> Messages of condolence may be directed to their home: 2229 LaCross St.
> Kalamazoo, MI 49006.  Mollie's Eaddress: revmollie at aol.com  Phone: 260/
> 226-0910.
> 
> 
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