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Thu Jan 26 12:37:49 EST 2012

Atlas shrugged.  Jesus didn't.

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From: oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net [mailto:oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net] On Behalf
Of Herman Greene
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 10:05 AM
To: 'Order Ecumenical Community'
Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Fw: Re: Fwd: Written By A 21 Year Old Girl!!
GoGirl!!

I never understand how people reconcile their Christianity, where Christ is
so attentive to the poor, to hatred and blaming of the poor

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From: oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net [mailto:oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net] On Behalf
Of R Williams
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 9:04 AM
To: Order Ecumenical Community; Colleague Dialogue
Subject: [Oe List ...] Fw: Re: Fwd: Written By A 21 Year Old Girl!! Go
Girl!!

Colleagues,

I am forwarding this because I think there's going to be a lot more of this
kind of thing going around as the U.S. election season continues to heat up.
I believe we cannot just let these kinds of things slide by.  I live in an
area where many believe everyone thinks exactly as they do, and silence is
too often construed as agreement.  I think it is possible to respond in a
civil, non-partisan way that can perhaps be heard.  I hope that is what I
have done here.

You'll need to read from the bottom up.

Randy

"Listen to what is emerging from yourself to the course of being in the
world; not to be supported by it, but to bring it to reality as it desires."
-Martin Buber (adapted)

--- On Wed, 1/25/12, R Williams <rcwmbw at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: R Williams <rcwmbw at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Fwd: Written By A 21 Year Old Girl!! Go Girl!!
To: BIPBRAD at aol.com
Date: Wednesday, January 25, 2012, 7:55 AM

Dear Elliott,

This little story is indicative of some very old but still prevalent
stereotypes of people who  live in poverty.  Here are some facts about the
more than 46 million Americans who currently live below the federal poverty
guidelines.  You can look up the exact statistics if you care to, but here's
the gist.  Nearly 50% of those currently living in poverty go to work
everyday at full-time, albeit minimum wage, jobs and many of those have more
than one job.  Because of the time spent at work in order to keep food on
the family table they have no time to pursue the further training and
education that would allow them to move up.

By far the majority of those living in poverty who are not employed are the
very old, the very young and the chronically ill. This leaves almost no one
who fits the old, time-worn stereotype of welfare queens, skid row bums,
people gaming the system, etc.

Now I'll get a little preachy.  (It's in my blood, you know.)  In the New
Testament the hero was frequently asked questions like, "Who is my
neighbor?" and "Am I my brother's (and sister's) keeper?"  He answered by
saying something like, "I was hungry and you gave me food, thirsty and you
gave me drink, naked and you clothed me..."  When asked when did they do
that for him he said, "If you did it to the least of these you did it to
me."

The way we in our nation fulfill this responsibility to the "least of
these," our brothers, sisters and neighbors, is through our government "of,
by and for the people."  That's the  only way we can marshall the resources;
the religious and private charitable establishments don't, and never will,
have the money.  We constantly walk a tight rope to assure that we don't
cross the line from safety nets to making people more dependent.  But we
also have to watch that we don't throw the baby out with the bath.  Growing
numbers living in poverty and the growing chasm between the few who have
much and the many who have little will eventually erode the fabric of our
whole culture and civilization.  At the end of the day, we're all in this
together.

Just wanted to give you my take on this because I admire you as a good man
and a good friend, and to let you know that everyone in East Texas/Collin
County doesn't think the same way, and that's a good thing.

Take care,

Randy

PS  By the way, there are a lot of people in this nation "taking other
people's money for doing absolutely nothing."  It's called capital gains.
(Written by a 73-year old man--me).

"Listen to what is emerging from yourself to the course of being in the
world; not to be supported by it, but to bring it to reality as it desires."
-Martin Buber (adapted)

--- On Tue, 1/24/12, BIPBRAD at aol.com <BIPBRAD at aol.com> wrote:

From: BIPBRAD at aol.com <BIPBRAD at aol.com>
Subject: Fwd: Written By A 21 Year Old Girl!! Go Girl!!
To: Saljobrad at aol.com, abdodson at sbcglobal.net, claybradley at gmail.com,
chadleybradley at gmail.com, chas.bradley1 at gmail.com,
dblum at publicrealtycapital.com, Rambridge at aol.com, JOudt at aol.com,
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frank.cannon at cannonfinancialgroup.com, tbrumett at sharingtheheart.org,
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Date: Tuesday, January 24, 2012, 4:19 PM

This young lady should be an advisor to whomever the Republican's nominate.
She would not offend anyone except those who are already members of Obama's
"Camp Handout". EB

> Written By A 21 Year Old Girl (obviously one who works!)
>
>  
> Obviously  this girl has a job and realizes how the government is using
her hard-earned  money.
>  
> Wow, this girl has a great plan!   The last thing she suggested may be the
best!
>  
> This was written by a 21  yr old female who gets it.  It's her future
> she's worried about and  this is how she feels about the social welfare
big
> government state that  she's being forced to live in!  These solutions are
> just common sense in  her opinion.
>  
> This was in the Waco Tribune Herald, Waco, TX, Nov 18,  2011
>  
> PUT ME IN CHARGE . . .
>  
> Put me in charge of food  stamps. I'd get rid of Lone Star cards; no cash
> for Ding Dongs or Ho Ho's,  just money for 50-pound bags of rice and
beans,
> blocks of cheese and all the  powdered milk you can haul away. If you want
> steak and frozen pizza, then get  a job.
>  
> Put me in charge of Medicaid. The first thing I'd do is to get  women
> Norplant birth control implants or tubal legations. Then, we'll  test
> recipients for drugs, alcohol, and nicotine. If you want to reproduce or
use
> drugs, alcohol, or smoke, then get a job.
>  
> Put me in charge of  government housing.  Ever live in a military
barracks?
> You will maintain  our property in a clean and good state of repair.
> Your "home" will be  subject to inspections anytime and possessions will
be
> inventoried.  If  you want a plasma TV or Xbox 360, then get a job and
your
> own  place.
>  
> In addition, you will either present a check stub from a job each  week
> or you will report to a "government" job.  It may be cleaning the
roadways
> of trash, painting and repairing public housing, whatever we find  for
you.  We
> will sell your 22 inch rims and low profile tires and your  blasting
stereo
> and speakers and put that money toward the "common  good.."
>  
> Before you write that I've violated someone's rights, realize  that all
of
> the above is voluntary.  If you want our money, accept  our rules.  Before
you
> say that this would be "demeaning" and ruin their  "self esteem," consider
> that it wasn't that long ago that taking someone  else's money for doing
> absolutely nothing was demeaning and lowered self  esteem.
>  
> If we are expected to pay for other people's mistakes we should  at
> least attempt to make them learn from their bad choices.  The  current
system
> rewards them for continuing to make bad choices.
>  
> AND  While you are on Gov't subsistence, you no longer can VOTE!  Yes,
> that  is correct.  For you to vote would be a conflict of interest.  You
will
> voluntarily remove yourself from voting while you are receiving a  Gov't
> welfare check.  If you want to vote, then get a job.
>  
> Now,  if you have the guts - PASS IT ON...
> I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO GET THIS BACK, IF  EVERYONE SENDS IT,
> I WILL GET SOME OF THESE BACK!!!  I WOULD KNOW YOU SENT IT  ON!!!
>  

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